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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 67 points 2 years ago (3 children)

People who paid relatively a lot to feel that they are on with progress and have good taste. These are not things you can directly buy.

Of course, you can buy knowledge and powerful tooling, but I don't see such hype over digital libraries and good e-ink readers, or over learning programming among Apple fans.

On good taste specifically - Apple has always marketed itself as brand connected to that and has always been the opposite of good taste. I gave up trying to understand that long ago.

[–] Ainiriand@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And exactly to prove your point I want to mention phone cases with a cutout so you can see the apple logo.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And the whole green / blue messages bullshit. Apple never misses an opportunity to remind it's users they're paying a premium and everyone else is a plebe.

[–] theherk@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Or just which messages are SMS and which are an encrypted protocol. It was the users that turned that into a measure of status.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Except Apple will the ones that refused to allow iMessage on Android so it's absolutely about status.

[–] theherk@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don’t think it is good that they didn’t allow that but it seems non sequitur that means it is about status. I like to know if a message is sms or encrypted. Just like some jabber clients do for private messages. There should be some indication of the message status. And unless you can point to Apple indicating the intent of the colors is for social status and not an indication of protocol, I stand by that.

And I know it is hard to cut through the “fuck Apple” narrative. But to me, they are just another one of many scumbag corporations. I just don’t see any evidence that the intent is social status. That was driven by conspicuous consumers.

[–] jkjustjoshing@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Additionally, Apple intentionally makes green bubbles harder to read than blue bubbles.

https://medium.com/@krvoller/how-iphone-violates-apples-accessibility-guidelines-6785172eb343

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Don’t they all? I’ve never looked for a case showing the logo, but every case I’ve ever had show it

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And besides the tech bros with the throw away money, many of the people who have bought this thing are “influencers” and now are having trouble figuring out how to make content with or about this thing, because it’s early adopter play tech and has very little actual use, so the influencers are the ones putting out videos like “what would I even do with this?”

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

It's a devkit, that apple is even selling these things to 'users' is idiotic.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Hilarious. It doesn't even look cool to wear it. It's slightly better than Google Glass, but what are you going to do with it?

[–] GroundedGator@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I always thought Google Glass looked pretty sleek. Much better than having a full VR set on your face. You had a full field of vision, just a small HUD.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 2 years ago

What people seem to be doing with it is driving around in Tesla's with it and looking like even larger burks than they usually do.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I mean, as I pointed out, before an App Store, not much. After an App Store and some competition there are crazy cool applications. Cooking? The device can show you how much of your food to chop, where to put it, visually measure a teaspoon or tablespoon or whatever for you, automatically start a timer when you get the chicken in the pan or whatever. Look up at the stars and see constellations, flights, weather, etc overlaid by your view. On-road gps directions where there is an arrow video game style showing you where to go. Apps that could assist in things like building legos by showing you which pieces to grab and where they go. Looking down over the earth while on a flight to see exactly what landmark/town/area/state you are looking at. There are awesome applications to the tech. Whether we will see them or not is a matter of speculation. Apple is advertising a 3500 dollar headset with cool hardware and boring ass software right now

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That may be a more complex device, but I'd prefer something like a light Mandalorian helmet, with normal glass before your eyes (BTW, I think I've read about new kinds of glass which change degree of translucency depending on ionization or something) and picture being projected on it or with some display inside. I'm fine if that'd be 16x times fewer pixels.

Looking at the outside world via a computer display is just instinctively awful.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago

BTW, I think I've read about new kinds of glass which change degree of translucency depending on ionization or something

Yes it's called electrochromic glass, although it's actually more kind of glass laminate. But yeah it can be engineered in such a way as to change color depending on solar output or on the presents or absence of an electrical impulse. It's been around for about 20 years but it's only been practical for about 10.

People have even already integrated it with transparent displays so all of the technology is already there. It just needs commercializing.

Polestar apparently have a car with electrochromic glass in its windows so you can turn those into a computer display.

[–] foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

but people have been cooking, monitoring the sky and roamed the world for some ten thousand years now. what's the innovation here?

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago

It has a logo of an apple on it now

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

But $3500 to tell me which LEGO to pick up is totally worth it.

[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

If I want to look at the world through a screen I'd stay home and watch a documentary.

The camera they use will never have the acuity, color perception and dynamic range that your eyes have. It probably doesn't work super well in dark environment and it's definitely completely useless for stargazing.

[–] Rooki@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Its just a cash grab company that didnt yet collapse, because of its hype around it and its fanboiiiiis. And everybody supporting apple are just those who are deeply invested into that closed ecosystem. If apple dies out for any reason, they are screwed because their products are bricked without apple.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Give them credit for acting since the beginning the way all bigger tech companies do now.

[–] Rooki@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Like big assholes? "With our products you feel like you are a better than others"? Yeah they started that shitty trend.