we're never getting change outside of third worldism bruh
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The "everything short of my version of True Leftism is useless" part has a point, too. We'll critically support countries that aren't remotely leftist (Russia, Iran), but won't give an inch to American politicians who are anything short of Lenin. That applies to American politicians who have as much to do with imperialism as you or I, too.
I get where it comes from, but it's not internally consistent, which is bad on its own and also makes it harder to communicate these ideas to other people.
You're looking at things in too moralistic a frame. It's not that Russia and Iran have progressive values but that they geopolitically represent historically progressive forces as part of the anti-imperialist bloc. Some shithead in the House who gets elected just to Tweet Kropotkin and get pressured into voting Yes instead of Present on the latest Warcrime Bill before crying about it does not represent historical progress geopolitically or in any other sense.
It's not about who is "good" or "bad", it is about who is beneficial and who is not, and just because that means something else if you cross out the words and replace them with different words does not mean I'm actually saying something very similar to the second thing.
If you mean municipal politicians, you're incorrect as we do support them. If you mean Congresspeople at the federal level, you are smoking crack if you think they aren't significantly involved in the maintenance of imperialism.
Agreed, and I'd say pretty much any prominent politician to the left of the main body of the Democratic Party is beneficial if you're trying to pipeline people left of the Democratic Party.
Take Bernie. Despite his many faults, he helped crank open the valve on the pipeline left. It's far easier to talk to someone about bigger ideas of economic redistribution if they're bought into universal healthcare. It's far easier to talk to someone about the structural limits of the U.S. electoral system if they bought into Bernie and saw him get ratfucked in 2020.
When Bernie was doing something useful, he was worth supporting. Right now he is not, and often is being very actively detrimental.