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[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago (32 children)

The word "leadership" is pure ideology, it is a concept with zero rigor that urges us to accept that some people are inherently better than others and deserve their elevated position in society.

[–] determinism2@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When I was a little kid, a few students in my cohort were selected for a "leadership camp". I never knew what went on there. How did they practice leadership without any followers at the camp? Were some of them secretly invited to be followers? Do I have to listen to them when they get back?

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was sent to one of those.

I don't know the answers to any of those questions either.

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Which makes more sense?

  • a distinct skillset of oratory
  • a distinct skillset of abstract thinking about objectives and outcomes (strategy)
  • a distinct skillset of teaching
  • a distinct skillset of managing dialogue
  • a distinct skillset of coordinating people in real time
  • a distinct skillset of mediating and resolving disputes between group members
  • Leadership, which is some mishmash of all or any or none of the above, we say it's a skill but there are no good tests or even any quantitative metrics of it
[–] Owl@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

I can say for certain that none of the leadership things I've been roped into have been about any of the things you listed under #1.

Maybe "abstract thinking about objectives and outcomes" but that appears to be more, like, a thing that justifies "leaders" existing, rather than something they actually do. If I start actually talking about that sort of thing with leaders they get weird about it.

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