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I hate feeling like an expendable human resource. When I was laid off it was completely without advanced notice, they're never considerate enough to notify you two weeks in advance (like we are supposed to do).
It's not like the executive types are known for their empathy. I've seen the Chairman of the Board throw full on temper tantrums (and throwing stuff) at his subordinates. They have zero qualms laying us off if it means it increases this quarter's bottom line.
That’s why I quit recently with no notice. They asked and I said “you didn’t give one the last 4 rounds of layoffs, so why should I?”
I live in a country where the company or you need to notify the other 2-6 months in advance. You can only quiet earlier if it is mutual.
I recommend joining a Union so you can also have the safety benefits that we do.
I live in a country (the US) where secondary and general strikes are illegal, so unions don’t have as much power.
In fairness, you usualy get severance that is more than 2 weeks, and you don't even have to go to work to collect it. That said, in like spain, I think they have to employ you until you find a new job or something.
Lol, severance? Did you get lost and end up in the 50s?
https://www.nelp.org/publication/fired-with-no-reason-no-warning-no-severance-the-case-for-replacing-at-will-employment-with-a-just-cause-standard/
1 out of 3 is not most, and this data comes from 2022. I've read elsewhere that this number might be around 40-42% now, which is still not most.
It surveyed over a thousand people and had a margin of error of like 2-3%. Data isn't really a weak source and it's better than no source. Do you have anything to support your claim that most workers get severance pay besides you saying so?
A thousand? My anecdotal evidence covered more than that by just reading a news article about one tech company. I am more than willing to admit there is a huge divide between hourly and salaried employees on this subject. But given that the current news these days is about tech layoffs of salaried people, I took the cartoon to be talking about them.
Every salaried employee I know got severence when laid off. Not sure what you are on about.
I'm not saying your experience isn't valid, but that's anecdotal. Here's some data that puts that number at 1 out of 3 employers. I've read elsewhere that number may be around 40-42% now, which is still not most employers. https://www.nelp.org/publication/fired-with-no-reason-no-warning-no-severance-the-case-for-replacing-at-will-employment-with-a-just-cause-standard/
My severance is 3 months. Full salary and I don't even need to go to work
My buddy just got laid off on Thursday and got 3 months. Makes me wonder where you worked.
Everyone I've met has gotten severance.
Everyone who gets severance is a real human being, I think you're referring to so-called "people" like myself that are blue collar. Our severance is "don't let the door hit your ass on the way out, we'll make you pay to have it cleaned."
In addition to what was already written on the matter in this thread, if you don't have a residence permit, when you're fired without a prior notice you'll only have so much time to find another company to hire you. Otherwise it's a bye-bye and you can go fuck yourself in some other country. I wouldn't say that's something that can be easily beaten by a severance at least if it's not some astronomically huge one like a year of salary or more
Sure, but anyone working without a residence permit knows that going in. Noone is say companies are giving out severance from the goodness of thier heart. Just that for most positions 2 weeks notice of quitting is a reasonable ask. And honestly, the company can't do anything if you don't give it. It's really your coworkers who will speak poorly of you to other companies.
That's true, notice from a worker is more a sign of a food workplace relationship, I think