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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.

Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.

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We Are Not Mining with Renewable Energy …and when we do, shit is going to get real (thehonestsorcerer.substack.com)

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[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This article is pretty much arguing a strawman and (intentionally?) fails to discuss any quantitative figures.

Sure, doing mining completely without fossil fuels will be difficult in the short term, but the real question would be: does renewable energy save more fossile fuels over their lifetime then they required to be produced, and if so: then the reduction of fossil fuel use in the general economy means that there will be plenty to do the required mining.