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I don't have much of a problem either way as I don't think I'll be engaging in political discussion on this website past this post but it seems like any sort of non-left wing opinions or posts are immediately trashed on here. That's fine. There's clearly a more liberal audience here and that's okay. I just don't want Lemmy to become a echo chamber for any side and it seems to be that way when it comes to politics already.

Mostly making this post just to drum up discussion as I'm new here.

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[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (11 children)

due to the polarization brought about by social media echo chambers.

Due to the actions of recent right wing political parties whe gaining any power.

That's a bit like saying

"How dare you call us all arsehole. Because we keep voting for arseholes to lead our parties. "

Unless you and others are prepared to form a right wing that opposes these ideas. Then that is the reputation the right deserves.

[–] Chipthemonk@lemmy.fmhy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (10 children)

For the record, I would not consider myself right wing. But I do oppose many leftist ideologies. Grievance studies (Critical race theory, queer theory, and other ideologies based in post modern belief systems), for instance, are eroding many useful and productive enlightenment ideas. Color blindness is a legitimate way to reduce racism. Instead, leftists believe they should elevate group identity at all costs, thereby expanding and heightening racism. Queer theory denies human physiology, elevating the idea that everything is socially constructed. This framework is a grave distortion of the reality.

I agree that conservatives need to do a better job with their policies. Trump was a stain, and the few (okay maybe more than a few) loud idiots in the party make conservatism look bad. But if left wingers only get their information about right wingers from hyper left sources, we are going to have a lot of distorted views.

On social media, people are served more and more radical content. Much of that content includes great distortions of the “other side,” which pushes people further into an untenable and undesirable belief system.

We need more debate and we also need people to stop simply calling the other side morons.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Colour blindness is not a way of combatting racism.

If you have a real world system, and you bias it heavily to be unequal, then you try and correct it by biasing it to be equal, the average output is still vastly unequal, and the absolute best case scenario you can hope for is that it will trend towards equality over time without ever reaching it.

There's a reason that people who actually study and think about the topic come out as antiracist and people who don't think it about it except when it inconveniences them just wish everyone would stop talking about it and we could pretend like it didn't exist.

[–] Chipthemonk@lemmy.fmhy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, it is. There are a lot of academics that have fallen prey to post modern ideologies like anti racism. But there are also academics that haven’t, like myself and John McWhorter.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

'nuh uh I don't believe that' isn't an argument.

I've explained how balanced system + inequality + balanced system = inequality, and you've just said "nuh uh that's not convenient for me".

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