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[–] vexikron@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes, I am aware of all of this.

Here's the crux of your argument:

There is no chance that the commander of the Texas National Guard unit would order their soldiers to fire on federal agents unless they're a complete idiot.

So uh, this can't happen because it would be dumb if it did.

I agree it would be dumb if it happened.

Doesn't mean it can't.

Doesn't mean the situation is not a powder keg, doesn't mean that if basically one exceptionally stupid command, conflicting with a far less stupid command from another authority, is acted on, it could escalate rapidly.

Again, these kinds of /which authority will be recognized in case of conflicting commands, by which individual commanders and sometimes even soldiers/ are a defining element of civil conflicts around the world throughout history, and they are simply not predictable at an individual basis when in an extremely polarized, tense and complex situation.

Your argument is basically just: this would be dumb if it happened, so its unlikely/impossible.

Again, yep, itd be dumb.

Again, viewed through a lense of history of civil conflicts, especially a Chinese lense, it actually certainly qualifies as a very obvious situation to be highly concerned about.

The comparison with Ukraine and Russia was not chosen because the similarities of the situation leading up to armed conflict, but simply to illustrate that a lot of people can believe an armed conflict would not happen because it would be dumb if it did, and also to provide an example that sometimes, in war, surprises can happen that astound even the experts, as well as the general public.