I'm not sure how to respond, because I like the guy, but something about older Black boomers defending the Democratic Party makes for difficult conversations.

[–] Kaplya@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago (6 children)

This is what I have been trying to say to Hexbears for a while.

The electoral system is designed to punish - if you don’t vote for Biden, you get someone even worse. So if you’re a minority you have no choice but to vote for Biden, no matter what you think of him.

People who believe that they can withhold their votes to hold the Democrats accountable or think this will somehow force the Democrats to offer better terms are the TRUE BELIEVERS of electoralism.

The Democrats never cared for your votes, they will never offer you treats in exchange for your votes, they will however punish you (and all the white liberals who are least affected by Trump’s material policies will get the satisfaction of scolding you for the next 4 years) if you don’t vote for them.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago

Yea but if you do vote for Biden you'll also get someone worse next time around when they say "well they've put up with Hillary and now Biden we can run whoever we want"

I've been begrudgingly voting for dems my whole life and they've continued to get shitter.

In New York state the state dems are borderline indistinguishable from republicans at this point because everybody just runs as a Democrat, because the majority of people in the state vote for democrats.

At a certain point it just becomes doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Also the only time democrats have even given lip service to anything I care about in the last decade was when Trump was president and they were all marching in protests.

When dems are president all the same stuff keeps happening but if you raise the same complaints you get a lecture.

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