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Then your next job calls this job to verify your employment, finds out you quit without notice, and withdraws the offer
Edit: I get that no one cares that what I'm saying is a real thing that happens in some companies. Just know that it is and tread carefully if you're thinking about quitting with no notice period
Edit: Also no, it is in no way illegal in the US for your previous employer to reveal a basic description of the terms of your separation to future/prospective employers
They gave notice.
Depending on the contract or location, this is more than enough.
Two weeks is often no more than a courtesy, and not a requirement. If the company fires you, they're unlikely to afford you that courtesy.
But with layoffs sometimes they do give you advance notice. It all depends I guess.
It seems like this greatly depends on your manager, rather than a company. Some will try to offer other positions in the company which will count as a layoff for the tops, it seems, but a worker will still be there, some will tell you in the last minute
That's why you get a job before quitting the old one, lol
In the United States, that would be illegal. The only information that a company is allowed to give is whether a person is employed or not. Anything else will open them up to legal troubles. So you're right that this conversation could take place, but it wouldn't, and if it did, the former employee can make bank in court for damages.
E: turns out I was mistaken on this as it's what I've been told many times over. However, on a state to state basis, and specifically in my state, information shared is restricted to being work related. I think a nasty text isn't work related, but it could be said that there wasn't a notice given. IANAL, so ignore everything I wrote and don't spread as fact. Be better than me.
This is false.
Former employers can answer a narrow set of questions without opening themselves up to liability. Among them:
I'm guessing somewhere between the departure reason and "no, we wouldn't rehire this person" the new employer might have some additional questions for the prospective employee.
Some companies deserve to have you quit without notice, fuck 'em, but they are allowed to report some facts to other HR departments who ask.
I'm straight up about to go in and out my employer on notice. Been 9 years, I've had enough. I'm not trying to screw them, so I'm going to give them an opportunity to hire replacements for me before I go. The ball will be in their court.
This was mostly in response to your last paragraph. Not really related, but it feels good to more or less say it out loud.
Giving at least a few days notice is helpful, nobody ever expects you to do anything during that time, they might just send you home or ask you to document and close out your current projects.
After 9 years, what's one of two weeks to avoid souring a potential reference? It feels just as good clocking out that last time as quitting on the spot.
Usually you get "is there anything we can do to keep you", "is there any reason you're quitting" and "when is your last day".
Edit: by souring I mean most employers won't outright badmouth you, but your boss might say good things about you even though you've quit. If there's a chance of that then that is valuable when you negotiate your next job.
I didn't quit, I told them my time here is short and they should figure out my replacements. I don't have a firm timeline, because I'm not sure how my product will play out, but I will be leaving and I will help with the transition. If my opportunity turns into a reality, I will give them a hard date. Also, I'm the only person that does a lot of stuff here, and I know they will hurt without me, so I'm not gonna turn off my phone when I leave and leave them high and dry. If this place treated me really poorly, I'd have no qualms about walking out now, but they didn't, so I'm not.
They're also allowed to say if they would re-hire you, which they almost certainly wouldn't after that text.
Dude, you just made this up. Prove to me otherwise
Lol where did you pull this theory out of?
They can make bank if they knew. The company can just take back their offer for any reason and they don't have to tell the incoming employee why they did that. You think an HR is going to tell you that they talked to your last employer? No
Except that's not how this works if you were ever in a position to actually verify employment. Every company ever will specifically tell their employees to just confirm whether or not the person used to work there and that's it.
Anything else opens the company up to a lawsuit for slander. The employee is already gone. No company is going to risk a lawsuit just to warn another company of a bad employee.
The large hospital system I used to work for absolutely communicates termination status to other employers, one of those is "resignation without notice," and I knew 2 people who had job offers rescinded other places after verification
If someone quits because of unsafe working conditions, they would be grouped in the "resignation without notice"
I'm sure they have a lot of other bullshit reasons to not hire people too.
Most jobs call to verify before they give your offer.
When you get a good job, a good boss doesn't care about that shit.
A good boss knows that this will impact the rest of the team, and in many cases require discussions about covering shifts, rehiring new people and rebuilding relationships.
Don't list it in your previous jobs. Problem solved
"What can you tell us about this hole in your resume"
"Taking care of my sick mother ..." stops them real quick.
Love all the "interview hacks" in here :)
Oh damn this is a good one!
"That's when I went to Yale"
"I yust got out last week!"
I was self employed doing x y or z
Get the best sounding friend you know and let them know what you're doing. Say you did landscaping or wallpaper work for someone and give them that friends number doesn't even have to be their real name you give them and boom, you just verified your work history. Obviously depends on what you are applying for you could say computer work or a number of many other things. If you do work like that for someone you're private contracted so they have no way to prove that you didn't do it
Thank you for attempting to bring facts to what looks to be a feelings party - people could literally end up homeless by following this pattern, e.g. if the new job fell through and the one after that checks both previous references, then all the old manager has to do is send that screenshot.
Karma exists, and yes corporations are evil SOBs but that's no reason for us to be so likewise.
And ofc it's a joke meme, but... is it tho? And anyway why downvote you even so? Now I too will accept those alongside you, and I suggest we treat it as a badge of honor at this point, I will hold fast to what is true regardless.