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[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

That interception was hilarious. He threw it into triple coverage and missed by a good 5 yards.

Edit: went back to double check. It was on second down from a completely clean pocket too.

[–] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Lamar was not good in this game. I also think their passing game makes it harder for him to make easy throws. They didn't call a single screen all game! Give him some easy throws to make. I think he'd do well in a timing offense like Dolphins' type.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The problem with a rhythm game is he doesn't have the touch or accuracy. All those slants and drags and swing passes need to be in the right spot at the right time with the right amount of power, because it relies on guys being able catch the ball in stride and gain yards after the catch. Lamar just rifles it in, and his placement is all over.

He's a great athlete, but he's just not a good passer. He sees the field great as a runner, and is genuinely special with the ball in his hands. But if you're a good defense who can force him to be a passer, he's not going to get the job done.

They did try at least one screen Chris Jones batted down. I don't remember others. But there were shorter passes he could have thrown on some of the plays, which is what you do against the heavy blitz, and he just held onto the ball.

[–] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For a guy like him, you need to give him short passes in front of him. The long developing patterns that requires accuracy just ain't it. Chiefs are also the one defense that's given up more TDs to QBs than any defense, and Lamar didn't run enough against them. Actually Ravens didn't run enough against Chiefs, and the game was never out of reach to abandon the run game. I think Ravens need an upgrade in OC.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

As far as I'm concerned, he just doesn't have the capacity to be a good enough passer to win a championship because of him. His legs will do it in the regular season. But at some point, to win a Super Bowl, you need to make throws when the defense knows you have to throw, and I don't think he's capable physically or mentally of doing that.

In terms of the run, Lamar was the biggest driver behind the new OC with more emphasis on the pass game. I think it's kind of ironic that the Chiefs went heavy packages so often on the other side to beat them, but the difference is that Mahomes treats playground ball as a fallback. If the play design doesn't work, he'll move when necessary and his guys will get into scramble drill, but he's trying to play within the offense first. I think, if you could do out the charting, that the proportion of Lamar's completions that are guys breaking off their routes would be a lot higher, because he can't/won't pull the trigger on the scheme stuff.

[–] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah I just never want to say he can't because he could learn. But something's missing about his play making for sure. I'm guessing you're a Ravens fan, and if that's the way Lamar and the OC wanted to go then they've handicapped themselves severely. It was clear to see though that Andy Reid's staff out-coached Ravens' on both sides of the ball. Ironic Bills might've been the only ones who came close, yet will inevitably fall short because Andy Reid knows McDermott's defense because that's the defense he wanted in Philly in the years past and knows how to carve it up.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm not a Ravens fan. I like the organization and coach and casually rooted for them until they played Lamar, but I'm a Pats fan.

I just can't stand when flashy shit gets a guy treated like he's the best in the sport when the fatal flaws are just as big of a negative. How many other guys can you make a highlight reel of sprinting backwards and blindly throwing jump balls? Even when his guys actually do go get them (which has happened more than it should), those are awful decisions. Every bit of his patient, deliberate approach with his legs and protecting himself and the ball is offset by his recklessness when you make him a pocket passer. And that's part of the job description.

[–] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

flashy shit does sell tickets. He's getting better with the passing but he is as you say a rb trying to prove himself as a QB and walked right into Chiefs' plans. fait accompli.

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