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It's the dunk tank.

This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.

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[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Non-LW link, since they log Hexbear IP addresses: https://lemmy.ml/comment/7570861

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Log Hexbear IP addresses? Context?

[–] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

they probably log all IPs and OP just phrased it weird? doesn't make sense otherwise.

[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, the LW admins doxxed a lemmy.world user in the admin chat, claiming they had discovered the alt of Hexbear admin CARCOSA. Answered here

[–] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah I mean I was around for that. What you quoted is what I'm saying:

They also log and monitor the IPs and the emails used to sign up on their instance

None of that is unique to hexbear. Anyone visiting the URL in the OP will have their IP logged, there's no way to tell if the traffic originates from someone clicking that link here*. And no way for them to link your IP with the fact that you're a hexbear user unless you're naive enough to sign up for a lemmy world account and post correlating info to a hexbear account.

What is unique to hexbear (sort of, I'm sure they hate the grad too) is the vendetta they hold against us, so even though it's probably a PITA to correlate these things you can be confident that they're petty enough to do that.

Fuck lemmy world and good on ya for posting a lemmy.ml link to the federated thread.

* unless your browser's adding headers to note what site you're clicking that link on, which uh stop using chrome I guess shrug-outta-hecks

[–] PaX@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

unless your browser's adding headers to note what site you're clicking that link on, which uh stop using chrome I guess

As far as I know, all major browsers (Firefox, Safari, Chrome) at least send the host you came from in the referrer header (like "https://hexbear.net")

desolate

Edit: This is true only if the site you're on doesn't set a different referrer policy! And Lemmy does set a safer referrer policy, see below

[–] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Weird, I tested it by clicking the lemmy.ml link and didn't see a referer header in the request headers.

[–] PaX@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You're right! I'm on Firefox and I just figured out how to test it and it seems Lemmy's web UI thing sets the referrer policy to same-origin which means no referrer information is sent when navigating to a different domain.

But my copy of Firefox's default referrer policy is set to strict-origin-when-cross-origin so it would have sent "https://hexbear.net" if the referrer policy was not set.

My bad, I should have checked first to be sure. I would hate to be a web developer lol

[–] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

Just a nightmare interaction of various RFCs and their consequences.

[–] PaX@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I would also like some explanation that sounds wild

Is it referrer header stuff? Death to HTTP

[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is it referrer header stuff?

They log it all to a discord server

From our top active admin, @CARCOSA@hexbear.net:

Friendly reminder that the lemmy.world admins doxxed one of their users they thought was me. They also log and monitor the IPs and the emails used to sign up on their instance as well as use a discord bot to log all posts/comments made to lemmy.world. Don't make accounts on their instance!

More details in this post

[–] PaX@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

Wtf

Thanks for the warning

[–] motherofmonsters@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] motherofmonsters@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago

I meant the linked post not the logging ip thing

[–] GarfGirl@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Opened this on my lemmy.ml account and saw people had replied to me claiming I was lying about being trans since I last opened that account

trans-gun