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[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

No, sorry. We've unintentionally thrown so much of the world off balance by importing creatures that were never in certain places, that we must bear responsibility to bring things back to the balance they were at before we got there, particularly now that we know better.

If that's not possible, we'll do our best to get there. Where are the dodos, buddy? Keep your stupid cats indoors, and stop bothering the local ecosystem more than we already have.

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

we must bear responsibility to bring things back to the balance they were at before we got there

The idea that nature was in some sort of balance before humans came along is a common misconception. Most ecosystems are dynamic, and change over time. What we are doing is accelerating that change to a dangerous level.

This might seem like an academic distinction, but many conservationists have caused more harm than good by trying to 'freeze' ecosystems at a state that existed at some fixed point in the past. I believe it was George Monbiot who pointed out that the margins of many British roads had higher plant and insect diversity than many 'protected' areas.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Friend, cool it with the pedagogy. If one understands the idea of ecosystems at multiple scales, it follows implicitly that one understands the systems are inherently dynamic.

The point still stands: we've got to understand the environs we've rapidly destabilized and do something to limit our negative influence. Ergo: keeping stupid cats indoors helps the stressed systems by reducing the load caused by a bored apex predator.

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Oops I forgot my point in saying all that, which was that if cats have become naturalised to your local ecosystem, then removing them could make things worse. (And by the way, cats are not apex predators.)