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[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Yeah also iOS is getting RCS support soon so the whole point is moot. The whole blue bubble thing is a lot of people with way too much time on their hands to get worried about stuff that doesn't matter at all.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The bubbles are pointless. What matters is that apple will not send media like videos or pictures over anything but sms to android users, which means it gets transcoded down to 2.5MB max. This means that any media, which is a lot of what people send nowadays, looks like absolute trash going apple to android.

Its a sleazy, underhanded way to get people to buy into the apple ecosystem so they can stop getting tiny, grainy videos of their friends/family.

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just don't send shit from apple? If you want to send me shit, get a decent phone or don't bother?

Not sure why apple enshittifying their messages is supposed to incentivise me to do anything but ridicule them.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

So your answer is "everyone I know with an apple device should stop using the thing that apple made sure works wonderfully for them and shift to another app to talk to me."

That's just not in touch with reality at all. What people actually do is keep using iMessage and sending shitty compressed media to android users. That's the problem people are actually complaining about, not some "bubble color" strawman.

[–] August27th@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'd count on Apple making the RCS bubbles green too, just to sow further confusion.

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

Yeah and anybody complaining about it at that point is just being a whiny child.

[–] mdhughes@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

RCS is not end-to-end encrypted, so their bubbles will remain green.

Google's proprietary extensions add E2EE, and Apple's not going to pull a Beeper on Google.

[–] thoughts3rased@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago

Google has been begging Apple to implement RCS for well over a year now. They wouldn't need to pull a beeper on Google since Google actively wants to help Apple implement their standard.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How is that going to help if the only RCS apps for Android are proprietary Google or Samsung apps?

[–] rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's actually not that RCS. Apple is saying they'll adopt RCS the standard which would likely be a big wildcard.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, so which FOSS Android app will be interoperable with the new iMessage?

[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago

Propably when Google allows Android apps to access modem-level RCS message sending. Right now Google Messages do everything via Google's some sort of a proxy server.

A whole lot of mess just like always when phone operators do anything.

Imagine how cool it could be if every mobile provider would just provide data and free XMPP account with autoconfigure instead of RCS or VoLTE crap.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

RCS is nothing like a proper network based messenger. It is too little, too late.

I for one will never use it.

I was using XMPP on my phone in 2010...which was years ahead of RCS even then.

RCS is still tied to a phone number... Why would I want another version of SMS?