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[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

And what did Marx think about voting for the lesser evil:

Even where there is no prospect of achieving their election the workers must put up their own candidates to preserve their independence, to gauge their own strength and to bring their revolutionary position and party standpoint to public attention. They must not be led astray by the empty phrases of the democrats, who will maintain that the workers’ candidates will split the democratic party and offer the forces of reaction the chance of victory. All such talk means, in the final analysis, that the proletariat is to be swindled. The progress which the proletarian party will make by operating independently in this way is infinitely more important than the disadvantages resulting from the presence of a few reactionaries in the representative body.

Karl Marx and Frederick Engels Address of the Central Committee to the Communist League, London, March 1850

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Most people are trying to bring in social programs, not communism. The Democrats can do social programs, and they can do them better when we move the Overton window left by continually voting in Democrats

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Democrats can do social programs,

But won't.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Obamacare. Try voting and moving the Overton window and they can do more.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I do vote. The window keeps moving to the right. To the point where a handout to the insurance industry is considered a social program.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just think about how much worse it could be.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh, I'll just have to wait. The overton window isn't going to move to the left. It's already so far to the right that the "left" party supports genocide.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Do you honestly think it hasn't moved right because Trump won? Now think what will happen if he wins again.

Ps you're what the meme is about. Except the meme is wrong, didn't save anything because Trump would escalate it.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And there it is, like clockwork.

The assumption that anyone who doesn't love genocide must be a Trump supporter.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And there it is, the strawman.

Cheers.

[–] Enkrod@feddit.de 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Marx and Engels had proportional representation to work with instead of first past the post. This is exactly why the US needs proportional representation, at least for congress, to break the de-facto two party system.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

That doesn’t prevent the workers from forming their own party and promoting their own candidates. Circumstances in every country will always be different.