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and this was supposed to be her best state too. Even after the GOP tried to pull a DNC in 2020 and have all the ghouls line up behind Haley she couldn't pull it off.
Although Trump is actually doing worse than I expected him to do, both here and in Iowa. Shows the never-Trumper movement does actually exist in some form on the right and isn't just some weird news media phenomenon. Like with Biden in 2020, no doubt most of those Haley votes are just anti-Trump votes, who tf gives a shit about Nikki Haley. GOP seems just as split as the rest of the country, nearly 50-50. Surprising, thought things would be way more pro-Trump.
I don't think that's accurate at all. I think the people voting for Haley are entirely different from the Never-Trump movement. Years ago Never Trump people like David Frum and Bill Kristol started to appear on MSNBC all the time. I don't remember when 2018? I bet the never Trump vote was much less than a single percentage point then. And MSNBC entirely lost interest in them. I don't think they've had a "never Trump" segment in years.
In any case when it comes to Haley - I think a small percentage of republicans started to be bit embarrassed after Trump's criminal indictments started to come down. They want to seem principled and decent. They aren't never Trump people by any means. I'd bet money that a large percentage of republican and independent voters who voted for Haley (or will vote for her) will change when they vote in the general election. They'll do what republicans do which is vote for Trump. There's no "never" for them. Biden could cure cancer himself before election day and they'd still vote for Trump.
There are polls showing that a significant amount of Haley voters won't vote for Trump, with 43% going to Biden. That's a big enough percentage to sink him in every swing state. Of course it's impossible to know how it will actually play out, but I think more Repubs are sick of trump than you might think.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/23/trump-moderate-republicans-problem-00137112
Those people are full of shit and just don't like admitting they're going to vote for Trump.
They'd probably also tell you they didn't vote for him the last two times which would also be horseshit.