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I made a blog post on my biggest issue in Lemmy and the proposed solutions for it. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.

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[–] 0x1C3B00DA@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (13 children)

Go for the most active one

There isn't one "most active one" because federation isn't perfect and every instance sees a different number of users/posts.

The people on the other, smaller, communities will find out about the main hub and subscribe to it as well.

You can't guarantee that. If they are on a smaller instance, their instance may not be aware of the larger community/instance.

I think decentralized systems are much better than centralized systems, but they're inherently more difficult. Also, your solution (everyone eventually just uses the same community) isn't decentralized. My proposal, which the third solution in the article is based on, enhances decentralization by allowing duplicate communities to exist but consolidate the userbase and discussion.

[–] rglullis@communick.news -1 points 2 years ago (8 children)

federation isn’t perfect

Again: so what? It's reasonably easy to see how different is your view from a given community compared to another instance.

You can’t guarantee that.

You are right. There is no guarantee. That doesn't bother me, and I truly don't understand why it should bother others. I am not going to write only if I am optimizing reach or I know a priori if the people are going to approve.

Also, your solution (everyone eventually just uses the same community) isn’t decentralized.

Sorry, your argument is falling to the fallacy that Taleb calls "Thinking in Words". If the system does not depend on a central authority and if the agents are free to talk with each other even when not in the same namespace, then yes, it is decentralized. In practice, there is no actual problem in having large communities belonging to one server. The people are not tied to it, and if the instance controlling the community starts acting malicious or against the interest of the majority, it's easy to coordinate a move away.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It's a huge problem with the platform which you choose to ignore by saying "so what". It's impossible to refute someone who digs in their heels and says "so what" to everything and not seeing the problem.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There is a difference between "not seeing the problem" and "asking yourself what are the implications of it". I'm running 15+ instances and I'm running a website that is devoted to help people find the "canonical" community in the fediverse. I can point to dozens of other issues that are a lot more "painful" to me as an user and an instance admin, none of them are related with the "pain of having to choose which community to join or focus".

I'm again going to ask: is there any actual, practical example of this being such a "huge issue"?

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And yet people want a better solution and are asking for it. And the only response you, an owned of 15+ instances, and an admin of a website that helps people find instances, can make is "deal with it it's meant to be hard". It's a huge usability problem, it's funny that you don't see it. Consider this my last reply to you.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 0 points 2 years ago

You repeated the accusation of "not seeing it", misinterpreted what I am saying as "deal with it, it's meant to be hard" when I am actually saying the exact opposite (It does not require a lot of work to figure out "organically" and it is not hard to workaround the issue) and when asked repeatedly for actual instances of this being "a huge usability issue", you run away with some pretentious posturing. That's just lame.

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