I don't get how libs can tolerate being taken for granted like this. They're not being mature or practical - they're accepting mistreatment by an establishment sworn to serve them.

Trump and his supporters aren't better, but at least he's telling them what they want to hear. He at least made sure to get checks out to people and had his signature stamped on them.

I dunno, at least there's a strategy there. And Biden has had four fucking years and he's done nothing to get people motivated to vote or even register to vote. Not even going into his participation in genocide, it's just a lack of strategy to the point of self-sabotage.

And the entire Democratic party is complicit in all of it. It's like they want to lose, because all I'm hearing are about how bad trump is/was. And it's like, I was fucking there. And after three years, all they can offer is to give him a verbal reprimand and coverage on every major news network, speech, and social media posting.

It's just mind-blowing to think of the wasted time and energy on the part of the US political system.

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[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

It's not enough for you that they actively oppose Israeli genocide; rather, they have to also support Hamas in their struggle against Israel?

Centrism is support of the status quo. Nominally opposing Israel and Hamas is opposing change to the current trajectory and nothing better. Hamas represents the most viable current expression of the political will of Palestinians, hence its broad support by them, so any reasonable anti-imperialist will support them until such a time comes as they are no longer the most viable or they no longer have a war that it is productive for them to fight (i.e. once Palestine is freed from river to sea).

[–] robinn_IV@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago

It's not enough for you that they actively oppose Israeli genocide; rather, they have to also support Hamas in their struggle against Israel?

Yes.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago

they

I don't care about the Squad. I don't support them or any US politician and no one else here does either. So its not a question of me thinking what they are doing is enough or not.

Leaving them out of it. We support the Palestinian struggle. We supported it when the PLO was the main force, and we support it now that Hamas is. The violence of the oppressed can never be equated to the violence of the opressor. Condemning Hamas is against the Palestinian struggle

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago

Yes

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hamas are the only people fighting Israel (in addition to Hezbollah, Yemen, Iraqi resistance, Syria and Iran). These are the only people doing anything about the genocide, yes you have to support them if you don’t support genocide. Literally everyone else on earth is standing by watching doing nothing

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

aren't they in alliance with local communist and anarchist groups who supported the 7/10 attacks and continue to fight? not taking away from your point - just adding to the groups of involved resistance fighters.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

Yes I should have said the axis of resistance are the ones fighting (which includes other Palestinian groups in addition to Hamas)