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[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Or, read the article and see why so many don't feel like voting for either and then push the Dems to CHANGE.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (3 children)

And push them to change by participating. Primaries is where change happens. Vote for the person that aligns with your values, campaign for them, run yourself, etc. Skipping the general or voting for conservatives only backslides us further.

If Democrats magically banded together and all agreed to the most progressive forward thinking agenda possible, not a single thing would happen because the GOP would block it. What happened the last time the Democrats had both chambers of Congress and the White House? They passed the largest healthcare overhaul in a generation that improved the lives of millions. We don't just need the Democrats to change, we need to put them in a position where they can make changes as well.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

. Primaries is where change happens. Vote for the person that aligns with your values, campaign for them, run yourself, etc. Skipping the general or voting for conservatives only backslides us further.

You mean like '16 primary where they were so threatened by an actual progressive that they intentionally and willfully took steps to ensure he could never compete with Hilary? That primary?

[–] SaltySalamander@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

they intentionally and willfully took steps to ensure he could never compete with Hilary

I keep hearing this repeated ad nauseum yet I've never actually seen someone articulate what those steps were. Bernie was on every single primary ballot. The only steps that needed to be taken by voters was to vote for him rather than Hillary. I voted for Bernie in '16. No one had a single fucking excuse to vote for Hillary over him, yet they did, in droves. It was a failure of voters that she won.

[–] FoxBJK@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago

How about the ‘20 primary where he started as the front runner and still lost?

Or do you just wanna relitigate 2016 forever?

[–] BaldProphet@kbin.social -4 points 2 years ago

Vote for the person that aligns with your values, campaign for them, run yourself, etc.

Running for president oneself is obviously off the table. As far as voting for the person that aligns with my values... None of them do. I'll be voting for the other races on the ballot, because my vote in the primary and general elections will be worthless.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Romneycare? The largest transfer of money to the health insurance industry?

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I too would prefer a public option or single payer system that a lot of democrats support, but again, conservatives obstruct at every opportunity. Just like they did with the affordable care act.

Not a single person has been able to articulate how having more Republicans in power results in the positive change they supposedly support. I know that actual argument is "they'll destroy everything and we'll rebuild from the ashes" but they refuse to say that because it shows what childish assholes they are.

[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

I did read it. It's hot garbage meant to reduce voter turnout.