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[–] derf82@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (3 children)

How is a midwife authorized to give vaccines in the first place? Seems like a job for pediatricians and nurses.

[–] jak@sopuli.xyz 17 points 2 years ago

She’s graduated from nursing school with a master’s degree, which probably means she’s not a nurse (because why would you phrase it like that), but a professional equivalent.

[–] Fosheze@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A midwife is by definition a nurse. The full title is certified nurse midwife (CNM). Midwifery is extra training beyond normal nursing duties but they still have all standard nurse training as well.

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ok. Why would you take a school-aged child to a midwife?

[–] Fosheze@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't see why not. Like I said, they're still a nurse. Being a midwife is additional training on top of that. At most hospitals when they aren't midwifing then they are still just doing other nurse stuff elsewhere. My mom is literally a midwife but she also frequently works shifts in various other departments. It doesn't take anything special to administer vaccines. Any nurse can give someone a shot.

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don’t see why when there are pediatricians.

And this wasn’t someone doing side work at a hospital, this was a charlatan selling fake vaccine records as a business.

[–] Fosheze@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Your original comment that I was replying to asked why a midwife could give vaccines when that was a job for nurses and pediatricians. I was pointing out that midwifes are nurses. I wasn't responding to the article. As far as administering a vaccine, which is what I assumed your second comment was talking about, any nurse can do that. Even a pharmacy intern can administer vaccines.

The fact that this person is a quack has nothing to do with what a midwife is or weather they can administer vaccines.

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I am not arguing it’s hard to administer vaccines. I’m arguing, in this anti-vaccine world, who do we trust to actually do it and document it properly?

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't think the requirements for giving vaccines are that high. It's not that difficult to do (for most vaccines at least). Most pharmacists do it as well.

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It’s not that it’s hard, but you need to have qualifications to avoid fakers.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And to that point why not authorize a midwife to vaccinate? They're already delivering a baby.

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

These were not newborns. They were school age kids.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah - yeah - I just mean that if you're going to trust somebody to be a midwife it's not much of a stretch to trust them to do vaccinations.

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

I mean, I don’t trust midwives as it is. But their “expertise” is limited to delivering babies.