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60% is certifiably NOT leetsauce, I have no idea how anyone gets on without an F row. I want arrows, need an F row and ideally some of the nav keys The 75% is more like a 60% with an F row - I wouldn't usually use the full TKL but wifey bought one :)

I will.keep eyes on for Gaterons, ty! It's good to know that there isn't gonna be a huge gulf of difference between the various keys.

Dang I have seen those column staggered split boards before, kinda spooky but pretty cool. I've never really been super passionate about keyboards so I'm kind of a pleb honestly & appreciate the info,

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for a long time I thought that the best keyboard I'd used was the Lenovo Thinkpad Chiclet keyboard

I do still kind of want a Dell AT101 or of course a Model M sometime...

Jesus lad talk about delivering, thanks a bunch

Yeah I hear you..I'm just sick of Cisco's shit. And juniper (this was before the acquisition news), AND Arista.

I want to just move to Cumulus or SONiC and get rid of these shitty vendors but my company is too scared and captured by sales.

Just want FRR and to be left alone

Yeah, the Atreus was a big inspiration for that design. I tried a planck style board for a while but I just can't do it; I need the number row.

For the bottom one I'm just having the 10 key on the left and nothing on the right. I've been looking a southpaw ortho or staggered ortho as well as a split but they all have certain compromises that I don't vibe with so I decided to just design my own.

I thought I needed 3 per half at one point, and now use 2 per.

I'm thinking the same tbh. I might end up moving one of them closer to the alphas.

I'm eager to see the end result to both of these.

For sure! I'll ping you if I remember whenever my adhd decides to cycle back to hyperfocus.

Fascinating. I didn't expect so much.

I have a Wooting and it was world changing for me in games. The difference in actuation is extremely noticeable, not having to fully lift a key to reach "off" state in particular translates to 3-4 frames of gameplay at 60fps or 60-70ms or so if you prefer that way to look at it. 4 frames is A LOT in terms of engagements that are won or lost based on which person acted faster.

I've used reds in the past and hated them because I do a tonne of typing and reds felt absolutely awful to type with. I'm typing right now on a wooting and there's nothing wrong with it though.

Part of it might be the way they care about the keyboards too though. All their keyboards come with lubricated switches which must be a hand-built process.

Clicky switches are still better for typing imo, a membrane or nice tactile response just works better for it. But this is very serviceable for typing while having the advantages of no resistance for gaming.

The software for their keyboards is also leaps and bounds better than anything else I've ever seen.

So yeah. Personally I don't think this company is a gimmick. This was an interesting perspective though. If you get the chance to try one without paying (expensive) I do recommend trying one. They're smooooooth.

Literally my only complaint about column stagger is with strafing with shooters since I need to drop my ring and index finger a bit too far for where A and D is on QWERTY. This is where ortholinear boards actually do better at but I digress.

ESDF isn't optional with columnal stagger, it is much more comfortable.

I've done some light soldering in my current keyboard. I'm kinda invested in it now. I've cleared out quite a lot of beer from it