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[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (19 children)
[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (11 children)

So where does that say I'm wrong?

I said fair use covers news, education, research, criticism, or comment.

for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research

Then I said the next thing considered is whether it is commercial.

In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include— (1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes

I didn't cover everything in the law, I just covered the relevant points in a way that could be easily understood and related to the subject at hand.

My point is that the copying AI does isn't really research, but even if it were considered research it is absolutely commercial and thus should not have a fair use exemption.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Pretty sure @General_Effort@lemmy.world is referring to this portion:

(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole

(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

The main argument for this being fair use is both that a single work of copyright bears little to no relationship to the end product, and that the model itself does not effect the market for - or value of - the copyrighted work (note: the market for additional works produced is not what is in question here, it is the market for the work that has been copied).

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Sorry for the double reply, but I did also expand further upon (3) and (4), and other aspects, in my latest reply to /u/General_Effort@lemmy.world (link to your instance's version): https://midwest.social/comment/6225045

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