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[–] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When it comes to trains, we've all seen the horribly photoshopped gifs of the trains running on their empty rails.

Are you suggesting that China built a massive railroad network, but is lying about having trains?

Real "Lets fake the moon landing on the moon" hours.

[–] parpol@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Does this look real to you? Posted by a Chinese official.

https://youtu.be/G9VZf4ISG-o

[–] showmustgo@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Some of us have ridden China's HSR lmao

[–] parpol@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I take it you've ridden the maglev too, then.

Jokes aside, I'm sure the high speed rail actually exists, but I'm taking a stab at the legitimacy of the statements from any Chinese source, since they're well known to spout lies.

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm Chinese, and I am making a statement: parpol has not had sexual relations with minors.

Call me out for lying please.

[–] parpol@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I assume having sexual relations when I was a minor, with someone my own age counts, so that means your statement is technically false.

But to clarify a little. I have issues trusting the CCP and Chinese media, not Chinese people.

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Honest question, do you not find yourself being chauvinistic when you dismiss all Chinese media as lies until proven true, but accept all western media as truth until proven lies?

How about when China insisted the Ballon that was blown into US airspace was not for espionage, the western media on all fronts called it a spy balloon, then months later quietly admitted it wasn't spying?

Does that not increase the credibility of China/decrease the credibility of the west in your eyes, even a little?

What about the years of articles about social credit being some Orwellian nightmare, when China insisted it wasn't, and only after it was implemented did the west quietly admit that it was localised tracking for businesses to account for fraud and wage theft?

Conversely, the west did lie about WMDs in Iraq, swaying public opinion so as to launch an illegal invasion that resulted in a million Iraqi casualties, or the Gulf of Tonkin incident, and that doesn't damage credibility? How do you resolve the cognitive dissonance in your head?

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've been on the Wuhan->Guangzhou train and it was like 4 hours incl stops. It's roughly 1,000 KM (660 mi). Did the CPC somehow move the south coast of China inland northwards? I physically went from Wuhan airport to the ocean via train in less than 5.5 hours.

Like you're talking to the forum most likely to have visited China. It's not fucking North Korea, you can actually go there and get on the trains dipshit. Blanket dismissing all sources from China because some YouTubers told you to is just asking to be dunked on

[–] NPa@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

China is using miniature black holes for folding space to hide their failing train system. Several high-ranking officials working on the "trains" were recently seen having been partially spaghettified, just real noodly-looking.

[–] RuthlessCriticism@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

Wait are you serious? I thought this was a bit.

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

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