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This really undersells how batshit insane Mormon history is. Joseph Smith and Brigham Young were massive fans of the ephedra plant, aka ephedrine. They were the OG tweaker cult. First off, the fucking gold tablets. Book of Mormon is a translated set of gold tablets with "hieroglyphics" that Smith just found in the woods. While many laypeople believe these gold tablets to be forgeries created by the church, this simply isn't the case. The truth is far worse. The gold tablets are from an indigenous kingdom that had long since disappeared. Obviously, these weren't hieroglyphics, but how the fuck would Smith know? He doesn't know hieroglyphics or the lost language on the tablet. So he just kinda fuckin freeballed it while getting high as fuck on ephedrine. That's literally the base of the entire religion
Another thing that I literally could not make up if I tried. After Smith died and the Mormons ruled Utah, they tried making their own alphabet. The fucking letter G is an among us that is pronounced "gay". Their "promised land" literally had a giant saltwater lake. When they settled, they got completely overran by Mormon crickets, bugs that can swarm up to 100 in a square meter.
This isn't even getting into how Brigham Young made Joseph Smith look like a saint. Dude had like 10x more wives than Smith, and is thought to have killed 1/5th of his children. Also declared war on the federal government to try to claim Utah as New Zion. OH BOY THAT REMINDED ME OF MORMON ZIONISM. Mormons are Zionists, but don't use the term to refer to Israel. They actually think Utah/Arizona are the Mormon promised land. When I was younger, they got pissed off at Jewish Zionism for being fakes.
I know quite a bit about Mormons as someone who was raised by them.
i've never heard this before, i thought no such objects ever existed, no forgery no misinterpreted artifact
The tablets are real, although I wouldn't put it past the later church leadership to steal indigenous artifacts to cover for the lie though. But we know that Smith loved looting indigenous graves during the trail of tears so it does make sense for him to find them. They show pictures of the tablets at their museums. I think they want to avoid the discussion of what the plates actually are, so they keep it low key. It's obviously not hieroglyphics, seeing the tablets only makes it less believable if you're already in on the grift. If you see them as an outsider, it's obvious bullshit.
The tablets are not real. You are thinking of the book of Abraham, which was "translated" from an Egyptian funeral scroll. A lot of the rest of your info is wrong, too. (I'm an exmormon of more than 15 years, served a mission, went to byu)
I live in one of the Mormon centers outside of Utah. I can't go into detail without doxxing myself, but if you're Mormon, all I can say is that fucking tree. In the museums around here that the Mormons own, they show tablets but they don't have Hieroglyphics on it. Whether or not JS used those tablets is up for debate, but modern sects of Mormonism claim indigenous artifacts as the tablets.
The church does not claim to have the tablets that contained the book of Mormon. They were taken from Smith by Moroni once the translation was done.