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Cloudflare Employee records her final meeting where HR tries to fire her (ody.sh)

submitted 2 years ago by scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech to c/videos@lemmy.world

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I can’t give more approval for this woman, she handled everything so well.

The backstory is that Cloudflare overhired and wanted to reduce headcount, rightsize, whatever terrible HR wording you choose. Instead of admitting that this was a layoff, which would grant her things like severance and unemployment - they tried to tell her that her performance was lacking.

And for most of us (myself included) we would angrily accept it and trash the company online. Not her, she goes directly against them. It of course doesn’t go anywhere because HR is a bunch of robots with no emotions that just parrot what papa company tells them to, but she still says what all of us wish we did.

(Warning, if you've ever been laid off this is a bit enraging and can bring up some feelings)

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[–] ShoeboxKiller@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Being fired without cause means an employee is being let go, but not because of any serious workplace misconduct. Conversely, being fired with cause means the employee committed a serious breach of conduct in their workplace, which led to their termination.

Citing performance is citing cause. You’re wrong and others are right in that citing performance is an attempt to demonstrate cause to avoid severance and/or unemployment. A “layoff” is without cause and entitles them to those benefits.

[+] Bonehead@kbin.social -9 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Again, it doesn't matter what they tell you. It only matters what they report to the government. If it's with cause and you have proof they are lying, you can sue for wrongful dismissal. But they won't do that. They will report it as without cause, because that's just easier. They don't owe her severance because she was only there for 4 months, but she will qualify for at least some employment insurance.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is plain wrong dude, it's with cause, it's performance. They'll try to get her to sign a paper saying so, she can refuse, but either way they "have a paper trail" and even you refusing can be made to sound like "see they were insubordinate".

She can go get unemployment, the gov will check, and they will show their paper trail showing she doesn't qualify.

Stop trying to say it won't make a difference. It will make a huge difference.

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago

Until we see that paperwork, it's all speculation. Getting upset about it will change nothing.

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