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[–] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 73 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

If Ukraine loses and is forced to offer serious concessions to Russia (unlike the deal they already had and NATO prevented), the well armed extremists in Ukraine will go crazy. And they will probably be by far the most powerful faction. We could see terrorist attacks all over Europe from them.

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wait, but what if one of them rallies people by saying how their leadership betrayed them and it was because of the influence of powerful Jews? seen-this-one

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

hopefully somebody with the means is smart enough to whack that guy

[–] edge@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Hopefully Russia actually enforces "de-Nazification". At the very least by whacking any Nazi gaining power.

But that's probably wishful thinking.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

idk. Supposedly Putin et al did crack down on openly Nazi gangs in Russia, but I have no idea if they applied the same verve to fascist russian nationalists.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Putin is a very wealthy anti communist who has the support of the capitalist hegemony in Russia (for now)

It's not in his interest to do more than the barest minimum about those types of people

[–] BlueMagaChud@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)

we will, they'll need Strategy of Tension ops to bring restive labor to heel and these guys will be ripe for the job

[–] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

they did assassinate one of dugin's kids right?

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i really wonder, though, how much of the ultra-nationalist turbo nazis are once again fertilizing the fields of Ukraine as their heros in the SS Galacian division did so long ago. What happens in obviously failed wars like this? Do the ideological troops go in to hiding so they can do terrorism later, or do they all fight to the last and end up dead?

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I suspect the smarter ones are already on their way to Canada

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago

Mushrooms returning to the fetid pile of shit from which they bloomed.

[–] Kaplya@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

This is exactly what the US wants though. As Europe becomes more destabilized and uninhabitable, more and more people (especially skilled workers and highly educated professionals) will be looking for a way out.

Some will probably go to places like China, but the vast majority of them will end up in the US as cheap labor with H-1B visas, competing and dragging down domestic wages. Literally cheap labor from Europe.

The irony is that this was exactly what the EU did to the post-Soviet states in the 1990s. A lot of brain drain from post-Soviet Russia and Europe practically received a whole bunch of cheap skilled workers taught by a very high quality Soviet education system. This is shock therapy in action.

This is what Western imperialism has been doing to the Global South over the past century, with economic migrants moving to Western countries.

Only this time it is happening to the Europeans themselves.

[–] newmou@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

The final frontier