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Florida Becomes Latest State To Allow Permit-less Gun Carry (www.blackenterprise.com)

submitted 2 years ago by kuontom@kbin.social to c/politics@kbin.social

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On July 2, Florida’s new permitless carry law went into effect, continuing a disturbing trend across the country. Florida’s law marks the 26th state with permitless carry laws on the books as America is quickly becoming a nation of mass shootings. That is, over half of the country has now embraced permitless carry laws even though they carry extra risks.

As CBS News reported, those who choose to conceal carry their firearms are no longer required to have a permit to carry nor are they required to take any instructional course. However, because open carry is not part of Florida’s gun laws, they still are not cleared to conceal carry their weapons in public places. This includes airports, schools, stores, or other locations where guns are restricted or outright banned. Gun owners must still pass a background check, be legal US residents, and be permanent residents of Florida, neither can they be unlawful users or addicted to controlled substances, they also cannot have what is referred to as a disqualifying condition such as a felony charge, misdemeanor charge or an injunction.

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[–] kuontom@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (13 children)

We don't need to imagine it, we're literally living it. There have been more shootings than days this year - two mass shooting incidents just yesterday in Maryland and Kansas. It's already gotten to a point where we treat it as a normal thing and move on to other headlines.

[–] SpaceToast@mander.xyz 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (12 children)

Not trying to argue, but how many shootings happened in constitutional carry states vs not?

I guess I can look it up myself when I get home, but it’s something worth discussing.

I know there are many gang shootings in states with strict gun laws, and more gun laws prohibiting law abiding citizens doesn’t change that.

[–] kuontom@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (4 children)

In 2023, 139 mass shootings in permit-less carry states, 182 in non.

Florida - 17

Permit-less carry mass shootings count by state:

Alabama - 4
Arizona - 4
Arkansas - 4
Georgia - 14
Idaho - 1
Indiana - 7
Kansas - 4
Kentucky - 4
Maine - 1
Mississippi - 13
Missouri - 11
New Hampshire - 1
Ohio - 16
Oklahoma - 5
Tennessee - 13
Texas - 31
Utah - 1

Total - 139

Other states:

California - 29
Colorado - 6
Connecticut - 2
DC - 4
Illinois - 21
Hawaii - 1
Louisiana - 17
Maryland - 14
Massachussetts - 1
Michigan - 9
Minnesota - 4
New Jersey - 7
New Mexico - 3
New York - 7
North Carolina - 17
Oregon - 1
Pennsylvania - 18
Puerto Rico - 3
South Carolina - 9
Virginia - 5
Washington - 4
Wisconsin - 5

Total - 182

Excuse any +-1 errors.

[–] SpaceToast@mander.xyz 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Appreciate you.

Seems pretty close to even. It’ll be interesting to see if that changes over the years or stays about the same.

As a NJ gun owner, I think meeting in the middle is the most sane option.

Here you have to jump through so many hoops and practically need a law degree to make sure you don’t accidentally commit a felony.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Numbers like that would probably need to also be adjusted for population. Not sure if you just eyeballed that or not.

Alabama's 4 would be like 31 in California.

Which in that case is roughly similar, but who knows about the rest.

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