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We have shown no regard for climate protesters (progressives) and remove them by force wherever they show up, because we can’t have them threaten the status quo.
Meanwhile our fucking farmers, being sustained by substantial government money against all reason, throw a hissy fit when the government has to cut it unexpectedly because our supreme court decided that the world dying of climate change is not enough reason to take on a bit of debt and denied their budget.
And we let them.
Being frankly, support local farmers is important, specially with all the uncertainties of climate changes. I also think that governments should help and incentivize criation of alternatives, just increasing the diesel price would not make a farmer use a hoe instead. For me this kind of solution is just government not helping at all but putting the weight in a specific groups.
I'm all in against lobby and things like that but we need strong governments leading the energy transformation, not the private sector, specially weak markets like farming can't do this alone, only large landowners.
I mean supporting our local farmers benefits both, the environment and the people around them with jobs.
With the "progressives" arent they called "klimakleber" if so i have no regards on them too, blocking roads for cars or even emergency services i have no tollerance on that, they are literally killing people with their behaviour.
We all know that there is a climate change, but with that behaviour no one will ever do anything, because like said just the name is saying everything.
No one has been doing anything before the klimakleber, so if all they lead to is no one doing anything, that'd still be fine.
But in reality it does help. More extreme forms of protest shift the point of reference and as such help other forms get taken seriously. Even if I have mixed feelings about it, ultimately it's probably a good thing.
Also to my knowledge the Klimakleber have always left space for a Rettungsgasse...
Huh, not in my region then. Could be Klimakleber extreme. Probably all glued themselves and could stand up for because of it.
I think we have both different understandings, the Klimakleber is for me a laughing stock.
They should rather do something productive for the environmnet, and not buy extra warning jackets, glue that is probably bad for the environment and forcing cars to idle and get people angry about the klimakleber.
Bomb a pipeline, got it.
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Regarding the klimakleber, obviously they should let emergency services pass. However, what else do you think they should do, if not peacefully be inconvenient? Everything else is already illegal here, or has no reach.
The situation is dire, our ecosystem is collapsing and everyone under 60 right now is very likely to feel the dramatic consequences of that. We need to make drastic and uncomfortable changes in our way of life and economic system to prevent the worst, and people do not want to hear this, they just want to go on. If there is one thing Germans fear it’s change.
The thing is you are going not to convince anyone by inconvinience. Thats sadly the hard truth. Be a good modle and dont buy stuff you dont need, eating local sourced food, dont drive unecessary and hope that today not a klimakleber blocks your way, so that you have to idle unnecessary. Push repairability, reusability and long lasting products. Dont buy a new iphone every year.
Dont buy the coffee out of the the furthest possible country.
And so that you know, the internet runs on electricity! So every click you do here produces emissions.
The fact you are here arguing proves it works. We wouldn't be having this conversation if they didn't glue themselves to something.
We would be arguing something less important.
Wow we prove it with mentioning . Do we prove aliens if we mentioning them too? Klimakleber went up in the funny charts because of that everyone knows and is annoyed by them.
Both are blocking the roads. One protest is regarding our all future without personal gain, the other one is about profit margins. Both are blocking the roads, all the same
One is protesting because they feel like it, the other wants to say if you do that we leave our jobs and you will not have local farmers anymore.