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If grandpa's still voting R, he's voting for the fascists of the 21st century.
If you want to know what you would've done living in Germany in the 1930's...
Plenty of people who go to the shooting range vote D
Hence the inclusion of the word "if ".
I think people would be surprised how many liberal gun owners are out there (including myself). The difference is we don't worship guns like the lunatics on the right.
Hell yeah. Give me that big phat D.
In 1930s germany most people would vote for the facists, people did not turn to facism because they were born evil. That is to say, if you were german and lived through the effects of the end of ww1, you would be facist too
I've gotten fucked at every step of my life by capitalists and other greedy fuckheads, and it hasn't made me fascist and I didn't and never will vote for Trump.
Some people are just pathetic and want someone else to solve their problems. Some people are just stupid and cannot see how their problems will never be solved by a greedy asshole getting more power.
Some people are just terrible and will look down on others for merely existing. That doesn't make them evil. It makes them FUNCTIONALLY evil. A hand does not need to know why in order to strangle someone.
If you went through what they have, you would vote for trump. Their environment made them who they are.
I literally HAVE gone through what they have. I've grown up and lived in red states almost my entire life, but thank you for assuming my experience.
Again, stop infantalizing them. They are grown-ass adults PRETENDING to be victims of things that aren't even victimizing them. They are pathetic losers taking the bait.
If you're a fish, taking the bait means you die. If you're a fascist, taking the bait means the "other" dies. They are not worth the pity you are giving them.
So what's the excuse for the people who had what is probably the cushiest life in all of human history?
1930s germany was not cushy
His point is that even if the Germans of 8-9 decades ago were stuck in a bad position such that fascism was their best choice, the people who are leaning into fascist ideals today don't have that same excuse.
Its not an excuse, but you also cant say that people voting right nowadays were born evil either. Its for a reason.
So what you're saying is - it's their choice. That seems worse, no?
Its not their choice. They had it worse than the 1930s germans did
You can choose how you respond to a situation. It is ABSOLUTELY their fault. It will never not be their fault (those who supported, not merely lived through it).
Stop infantalizing people. Are humans not special in conservatives' belief? Are we not better than dumb animals? Then why are you using the excuse that they were a cornered beast?
Fucking pathetic.
People are a result of their environment. Nothing more.
So you're nothing but a dumb animal? No ambition or desire or ability to plan past the next meal?
What a pathetic existence.
We can conclude your environment has no point, only semantic debate.
Alter, willst du mich verarschen? Das kannst du nicht ernsthaft glauben? The fucking Boomers had it worse than the Germans in 1930?
The person in the photo is too old to be a boomer, and yes, the boomer had it much, much harder
You must be fun at parties.
Yes, boomer humor tends to be unfunny when you consider the real fact that the US is one year away from having open genocide of minorities and other “undesirables.”
Having to live armed every day because fascist shitbags are openly trying to kill you tends to suck the fun out of parties.
Ok.
when did the left agree we had to lie about the right to make them sound bad? That we just had to make up bullshit that obviously is a lie to go after people on the right?
Mate, there are prominent US politicians saying they aim to destroy the issue of trans people, to find a solution to a the trans problem. What do you think that means?
Where's the lie?
They're right, though.