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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] Haha@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Stop telling me what to do and get the corporations to oblige with laws. Oh wait! No one gives a shit because the corpos are running the world now? Oh no, guess i gotta eat shit to make up for their mistakes :(((

[–] chetradley@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As someone who makes delicious plant based foods from inexpensive and available ingredients, I take a lot of issue with the idea that plant based food is "shit".

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

rite? I take pride in my vegan food, and my non-vegan friends and family always ask me to bring entrées, treats and baked goods whenever I visit.

I eat GOOD, and if you think the contrary about vegans as a whole then that's your own limited, small, sheltered little view.

[–] Bayz0r@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

Yeah, vegetables and legumes and grains. Horrible, horrible. Woe is you.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Climate change isn't my fault! It's those corporations that I refuse to stop buying from fault!

🙄

No one is telling you what to do, but the studies are undeniable. Even if the oil industries weren't such a massive environmental disaster, that wouldn't change the wild levels of inefficiency and waste in animal agriculture. As a whole the meat industry is unsustainable, whataboutism doesnt change the facts.

[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 5 points 2 years ago

Who is telling you what to do?

[–] Fleur__@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Stop absolving yourself of responsibility by claiming that the decisions you make are inconsequential. The reason things don't get better is because people don't make them better ffs.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

being vegan doesn't make it better.

"ffs"

[–] Fleur__@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The article is right there explaining how it's better for the environment

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

it's full of insinuation and half truths and bad science and wishful thinking. it's a bedtime story.

[–] Fleur__@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Fleur__@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I've declared it

[–] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

We grow our own vegetables, raise our own meat, hunt, fish, forage, buy used everything with a few exceptions and we live on much less than most. Our house is appropriately sized but we drive a truck out of necessity. It's our one vehicle, 16 years old and works every day. We take so much shit over that damn truck from folks who "know better". How about we fuck up the trillion dollar capitalist corpos who rape and pillage the people, land and sea for God's Almighty Profits instead of judging our neighbors whom we don't even know many whom are struggling to even exist.

[–] kumatomic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

That's exactly the problem is they aren't on this crusade because it's the #1 cause. If they can tie their crusade to a bigger problem then it gains them more traction. Even though it's a drop in the bucket compared to corporate effects on the environment. the idea that it's anything but a power move to convert more people to their life choices is hilarious at best. Not to mention the ableist BS that it is to believe everyone can stop eating meat, but I'm not explaining that to the 20 internet doctors that will message me after this like last time I brought it up.

[–] abracaDavid@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Exactly. Why do these articles also act like the consumer is at fault and not the giant corporations selling these things?

[–] capital@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

So far, I see lots of consumers here in the comments justifying their continued consumption of the thing in question.

I think because we all know people could just learn a new recipe and buy something else at the grocery store they were already shopping at.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago

Because in this instance companies are just meeting consumer demands.