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[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There is an interesting conversation about the invention of the clock and universal time, for sure. But the argument for getting rid of it boils down to let's return to a preindustrial society, which is not so interesting to me. You can't run a industrialized, global society on people doing whatever whenever based on vibes.

[–] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

For sure, you can miss me with RETVRN shit. I don't have the capacity to adequately articulate this point any more, but it is interesting to think about how "time" as such is socially determined and how much power over our lives we ascribe it. We take it for granted as a kind of "natural" force, and yet we can affect it through human action (daylight savings fast and loose example.)

IDK, not a particularly useful conversation politically I'd say at least for the moment, but interesting nonetheless.

[–] HexBroke@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm with you here, time is a cop because of material factors of our economic system

I'm also not convinced by a lot of western write-ups of slacker orientalism because people worked hard and have always worked hard, even in times of material abundance, and seasons matter pretty much everywhere

You might not have a 9am start time because the sunrise is your start time, or changes in seasons