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Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.


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[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 2 points 2 years ago

On the other hand, what being “leftist” meant no longer looked anything like what it used to. What passes for it now is indistinguishable from capitalist optimism: an embrace of technological disruption as the key to social progress, a focus on individualistic identity-markers rather than collective class struggle, an increasing vilification of manual labor and non-urban cultural and religious forms, and a fanatic belief that every natural limit to human consumption and behavior can be transcended.

This was meant to be an argument in favor of why the better party was Republican from a person who I think has the awareness but made that absolute garbage decision to try and be conservative to shield themselves in the masses.

But I think they have a really good point there.

We focus on the 3% of the population that is scapegoats for showing you are progressive and also pointed at for everything wrong for being LGBTQ but the left parties ignore the grander greater percentage that has stuff in common like being poor or working class. A thing that more than 50% could identify with. They view technology as needing to be unlimited and pushed harder but ignore the need for classic in person communication for lots of people's mental health. An idea that we can just buy our way out of any issue or import enough people to fix things.

We have conflated pandering with actually being left leaning. With support for a marginal group as the same as supporting everyone. I don't think the answer is to lean back to conservative in groups but when can we get back to the topic of us being alike in that we are not the wealthy ruling class not on sexual orientation or historical background.

Why is it that Democrats sound like people with a checklist of talking points and no real empathy. If we can't have empathy then we can't have a civilization.