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It is going to be the wild wild west. Could you imagine everyone carrying a gun around with the emotions and misunderstanding people have.
We don't need to imagine it, we're literally living it. There have been more shootings than days this year - two mass shooting incidents just yesterday in Maryland and Kansas. It's already gotten to a point where we treat it as a normal thing and move on to other headlines.
Not trying to argue, but how many shootings happened in constitutional carry states vs not?
I guess I can look it up myself when I get home, but it’s something worth discussing.
I know there are many gang shootings in states with strict gun laws, and more gun laws prohibiting law abiding citizens doesn’t change that.
The data is in. Red states have far more gun violence than blue states.
According to that article, 54% of those deaths were self inflicted, which is a whole separate issue. It doesn’t show anything about shootings with innocent victims. That’s my point. Does constitutional carry actually turn states into the “Wild West” any more than states with stricter laws? According to the other reply I got, that doesn’t seem to be the case.
If you aren't including the increased availability of firearms and its outcomes for even self-inflicted death, you're slicing the pie in a very particular way to create a narrative.
Suicide and mental health issues are worth addressing, especially because men are more likely to use a firearm to commit suicide than women are.
I’m not “creating a narrative”. Please leave the unnecessary attacks on Reddit.
The topic was whether this would turn states into the Wild West. I’m almost positive suicides weren’t the kind of death they were talking about.
The fact that you keep saying "constitutional carry" instead of "permitless carry" already belies the fact that you're likely to push a specific agenda on this topic that isn't data-driven.
So if you charge me with leaving the unnecessary attacks on reddit, I charge you with leaving the disingenuous debate from the right on reddit.
Gun shot is a gun shot is a gun shot.
You can't just say "don't include the victims who died in X way". More guns=more deaths any way you slice it.