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Florida Becomes Latest State To Allow Permit-less Gun Carry (www.blackenterprise.com)
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On July 2, Florida’s new permitless carry law went into effect, continuing a disturbing trend across the country. Florida’s law marks the 26th state with permitless carry laws on the books as America is quickly becoming a nation of mass shootings. That is, over half of the country has now embraced permitless carry laws even though they carry extra risks.

As CBS News reported, those who choose to conceal carry their firearms are no longer required to have a permit to carry nor are they required to take any instructional course. However, because open carry is not part of Florida’s gun laws, they still are not cleared to conceal carry their weapons in public places. This includes airports, schools, stores, or other locations where guns are restricted or outright banned. Gun owners must still pass a background check, be legal US residents, and be permanent residents of Florida, neither can they be unlawful users or addicted to controlled substances, they also cannot have what is referred to as a disqualifying condition such as a felony charge, misdemeanor charge or an injunction.

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[–] HandsHurtLoL@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The data is in. Red states have far more gun violence than blue states.

[–] SpaceToast@mander.xyz 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

According to that article, 54% of those deaths were self inflicted, which is a whole separate issue. It doesn’t show anything about shootings with innocent victims. That’s my point. Does constitutional carry actually turn states into the “Wild West” any more than states with stricter laws? According to the other reply I got, that doesn’t seem to be the case.

[–] HandsHurtLoL@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you aren't including the increased availability of firearms and its outcomes for even self-inflicted death, you're slicing the pie in a very particular way to create a narrative.

Suicide and mental health issues are worth addressing, especially because men are more likely to use a firearm to commit suicide than women are.

[–] SpaceToast@mander.xyz 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m not “creating a narrative”. Please leave the unnecessary attacks on Reddit.

The topic was whether this would turn states into the Wild West. I’m almost positive suicides weren’t the kind of death they were talking about.

[–] HandsHurtLoL@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

The fact that you keep saying "constitutional carry" instead of "permitless carry" already belies the fact that you're likely to push a specific agenda on this topic that isn't data-driven.

So if you charge me with leaving the unnecessary attacks on reddit, I charge you with leaving the disingenuous debate from the right on reddit.

[–] Kill_joy@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

Gun shot is a gun shot is a gun shot.

You can't just say "don't include the victims who died in X way". More guns=more deaths any way you slice it.