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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (11 children)

Did a single women's liberatory movement succeed before development of the industrial capacity and the incentive capital provides to the national bourgeoisie to see things change?

We must prioritise the prerequisites. Certain material conditions are a necessity to meet before those movements can see success.

EDIT: The phrasing is a bit racist in this part of the manifesto but still relevant:

The rapid improvement of all instruments of production, by the immensely facilitated means of communication, draws all, even the most barbarian, nations into civilisation.

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Did a single women's liberatory movement succeed before development of the industrial capacity and the incentive capital provides to the national bourgeoisie to see things change?

I finished Graeber's "History of Everything" not too long ago, and want to say this gets touched on, and the answer is 'yes.'

That said, I gave my copy to my dad and would need to go page through it to cite that, so I very well may be wrong. Plus, it would have been centuries ago anyways, so not sure it's really relevant to your initial question.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Second this. The situation of Women in the 19th century is very deeply tied to the whole "global European empire of terror" and doesn't necessarily reflect conditions in other cultures at other times.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 years ago

There seems to be a lot of active socialists in my part of the country and historic support for women's and queer rights, I wonder if it has to do with knowledge of indigenous cultures from my region? Several tribes active here had a matriarchal governance structure, they would have rotating councils of women meet to discuss issues and distribution of resources in what could be described as a socialist system. Nearly all political knowledge in the west is rooted in white imperialist ideologies, my heart aches thinking where we could be today if egalitarian or socialist tribes were allowed to flourish.

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