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[–] RiderExMachina@lemmy.ml 68 points 2 years ago (24 children)

I wish I could find it and share the actual quote, but someone on Twitter (iirc) posted something like, "the best way to approach urbanism and biking to conservatives is to say 'I'm for traditional neighborhoods that use independent transportation methods without government overreach' or 'I want fiscally responsible transportation methods'."

To no one's surprise, these refer to walkable cities, using walking or biking, and include buses with the second quote.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

“the best way to approach urbanism and biking to conservatives is to say ‘I’m for traditional neighborhoods that use independent transportation methods without government overreach’ or ‘I want fiscally responsible transportation methods’.”

I mean, sure. And that might stick for a conversation or a few days. But come back in a week, after their ears have been pumped with Agenda 21 China Takeover Shari Law Communist Prison State talk radio gibberish. You'll be right back to square one.

At some point, it isn't the quality of message but the quantity. If you want to trick your Evangelical Homophobic Constitution Party voting uncle into supporting 15 minute cities, you need to configure his AM radio to play Well There's Your Problem podcast episodes in place of whatever crap Clear Channel is transmitting.

[–] RiderExMachina@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well there's our problem. There's no way you'd get my Evangelical Homophobic Constitution Party voting uncle to even listen to There's Your Problem because within the first two minutes they'll say "So the problem is Capitalism," and he'd go back to Limbaugh reruns.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

The first two minutes of any WTYP episode is Rocz or Liam fighting with the recording interface, to comic effect.

And I think that's one of the selling points of a lot of these indie leftist shows. They're entertaining in a way the old grouchy wingers aren't. Admittedly, it's very Millennial/Zoomers humor. So maybe Alice joking about bombing the local golf course isn't going to be Uncle's speed.

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