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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 65 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Literally every major Soviet historian of any standing aside from charlatans like Applebaum or Conquest agree the Soviet Union took a collapsed society of illiterate feudal peasants and transformed them into a literate industrial superpower with skyrocketing standards of living

Sorry they didn't create utopia on earth while dealing with one genocidal capitalist army after another, I'd like to see what US living standards look like after losing 27 million people and 1/3rd of the industrial and agricultural land destroyed, which is what the Soviets were dealing with after WW2

[–] star_wraith@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

Applebaum is not a historian, FYI. She is a journalist with no training or education in academic historical studies. Of course she loves to tout that she's a "historian", but it's just not true and even bourgeois historians like Kotkin love to dunk on her.

Her book on the famine just involved her being a stenographer for various Ukrainian neo-Nazi historians, for example.

[–] BlessedDog@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I consider the united states a shithole tbh

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago

You want a cookie or somethin?

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Correct, and it's never even been bombed, its just like this. This the society (or lack thereof) that our capitalists chose to build during their brief window of de facto world domination

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago

This the society (or lack thereof) that our capitalists chose to build

That's such a horrifying truth. Total world domination, trillions of dollars of wealth and all for a world where even people who are doing well can't buy a house and is headed for environmental disaster

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

not enough evidently if you think USSR is anywhere comparable to the barbaric genocidal monstrosity you sit astride

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

Do you have an example of a state worth even critical support?