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They Literally just steal videos from Chinese tiktok and put text(often in mandarin) over it and post it to make it look authentic.

Also 550 is their favourite number because they refer to it a lot when making Social Credit videos.

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[–] Dr_Gabriel_Aby@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Can someone explain to me how social credit is any different than my credit score?

My credit score decides what purchases I can make or what loans I receive. It is also is determined by my standards of living and the property I have. It sounds like it is the same thing, and I can’t understand how Americans are this dumb.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

The difference is that social credit is localized to specific provinces or cities that opt into the program. And it’s mostly only utilized for businesses (to ensure they’re compliant with the law by actually providing the services advertised to consumers). The owners/executives are the ones whose lives are nominally affected by the score. That’s not to say that can’t expand the system to other areas that weren’t intended for it (see SSN in the US), but so far it’s not some 1984 shit. I’ve met some international Chinese liberals while in college, and sometimes American students would ask them about credit scores and they would have no idea what the hell you’re talking about lol

The cartoonish social credit dystopia fabrication has gotten so outlandish that western, liberal media outlets have had to write articles debunking the claims because the things they said had no basis in reality like any good lie

[–] Dr_Gabriel_Aby@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So it’s less dystopian than the American social credit system…. Of course

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

Every accusation an admission

[–] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago

What I hate is that some lefty podcasts still either espouse this social credit nonsense explicitly or some of their guests will do so without an ounce of pushback from the hosts. I think the most recent instance I heard was an episode from This Machine Kills which oozes radlib and sucdem vibes anyway

[–] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Oh so because your credit score is bad you cant buy groceries? I think from that fact alone, you should be able to deduce what the difference is. I cant believe kids are this dumb.

[–] Dr_Gabriel_Aby@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

you are making up a thing…..

[–] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My bad, use SELF SERVICE to buy groceries, or charge your electronic car if you have one, or use Uber or most online services. In US they just wont let you get a cash loan or a credit card. That is absolutely different.

[–] Dr_Gabriel_Aby@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In the US, a bad credit report can decide; if you can receive a loan, or if you can get a house, or a rental unit, or a car, or the cost of insurance, or even employment opportunities, or if you can even use a credit card (the number one way to make larger or purchase items with recurring payments.) Your bad credit can even be decided by student loans your parents took out for your education BEFORE you were an adult.

I would say having bad credit can hinder your life in America. Regardless of what we perceive Chinas system to be.

[–] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Lol you said "can anyone explain to me how social credit is different than my credit score?" Did you not? Id say, not being able to use self service groceries, charging an electric vehicle not being able to use Uber etc at ALL is very different, wouldnt you say so ? In America you can get a debit card and do all those things even with no credit. Glad I could answer your original question. Also, taking out student loans on your underage kids is illegal as fuck in the usa but youre right someone could break that law and screw your credit up. Can still use self service groceries, charge your car, fly in a plane etc. Are you still unaware how they are different or would you like more examples to ignore?