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I am not a fan of the Guardian, but according to the subject of the article (they call him Li), he is a dissident and was under active investigation. I don't think they would have just let him leave
thats fair, but from an outside perspective (from either country) it looks exactly like how the US treats its dissidents. i doubt someone like julian assange would get better treatment.
also, i dont know how they defined "dissident" in this case but its vague enough that i wont judge too hastily.
people have been jailed for making tweets in the uk.
and probably the us too, im just too lazy to look it up.
communists are considered dissidents in the us, ask one of them how would they be treated if they got singled out.
you dont even have to get that far, look at how all the recent big protests went....
also assange exposed american war crimes, thats what this is truly about.
Assange is Australian so I'm not sure how that's relevant
why is the us torturing him then?
do you think they would let him up and cross the border?
Just because one state is also shitty to dissenters does not mean another state isn't. They don't cancel each other out.
Dissident is pretty vague, probably on purpose. As much as I dislike the US government, I can say the government here is shit and not get hauled to jail for the most part. The same is not necessarily true in China
is it?
how is the us treating communists, smaller trade unionists, palestine supporters, blm people and such over there? those people have sharp criticism and are the true dissenters to varying degrees.
ask one of those what could happen to them if they get singled out as a leader or something. i judge by actions not words.
e: immigrants too
I think you 100% missed the point. No matter how the US treats people, China can also treat people terribly. They are not mutually exclusive.
You were saying the US is better, all I said is that it isn't.
One of them never sponsored a coup in my and most of my neighbouring countries.
I did imply the US is better, and I probably should not have. And even in that I did not mean the government doesn't do horrific things. Probably should not have made the comparison TBH. That doesn't mean China doesn't also do horrific shit, even if the way they do it is different