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Photo caption: "Two dodecahedra and an icosahedron on display in the Rheinisches Landesmuseum Bonn, Germany."

Roman dodecahedron

A Roman dodecahedron or Gallo-Roman dodecahedron is a small hollow object made of copper alloy which has been cast into a regular dodecahedral shape: twelve flat pentagonal faces, each face having a circular hole of varying diameter in the middle, the holes connecting to the hollow center. Roman dodecahedra date from the 2nd to 4th centuries AD and their purpose remains unknown. They rarely show signs of wear, and do not have any inscribed numbers or letters.

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[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

maybe it's how smiths proved their competency?

I can smith to any specification you like, nothing is too complicated! Don't believe me? Just look at my Intricate Thing!

[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

They were found in coastal Southeast Asia, but not in India/China/MENA

my inductive theory is that this was a very specific niche market borne from a Southeast Asian merchant who saw these in Europe and adopted the idea to sell them as trinkets back in SEA. The fact that they were never found anywhere else means nobody really thought about selling them. In fact there might have even been a stigma against selling them, if they were used as a test of skill, basically buying your skill instead of earning it.

The SEA ones are also often made of gold, while the European ones are made of bronze. The Europeans who had them valued them, because they were found among coins, but they were usually made of cheaper metal like bronze, which IMO strengthens the "test of skill" argument

[–] ElHexo@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Gold is an easier metal to work with than bronze I believe, to add to your theory

true, but I think they wanted gold because it looked pretty

[–] mushroom@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

i've seen this offered as a potential explanation as well as being used for textiles/sewing in some way that i can't remember

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh, yeah the raised noduals at the corners would let you pull the fabric taunt while keeping it elevated from the surface and you can reach your hand through the hole to grab your needle (...wait, could you? How big are these things?)

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Instances range in size from 4 to 11 centimetres (1.6 to 4.3 in).

They're pretty small, turns out.

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

small enough to poke a needle all the way through, hah! my baseless speculation still holds!

[–] Bobson_Dugnutt@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago

Someone was saying that they were used for knitting gloves, but someone else was saying that's not true, I forget why