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world won't defederate from the right without a long drawn out process (see Exploding Heads for example). However, if someone posts "Karl Marx is great" or "Communism makes sense" or "capitalism is bad", you'll probably see a defederation before the enter key is hit. (Hexbear).
lemm.ee or lemmy.ml are where it's at. I don't think it's great for power or userbase to be focussed on one instance. lemm.ee has 0.19 and world doesn't despite their junior and senior infrastructure folk from their full 7 week interview process for volunteer positions.
Edit: People are on Lemmy likely because the actions of corporate Reddit went too far. In what universe would that demographic be cool with Facebook...
Hexbear is toxic, and I say that as a communist. I actually came here to escape them after being on lemmy.one.
As you pointed out lemmy.ml and lemmy.ee are still federated here, despite the beliefs of users on the server. Why, I post here about communism all the time and nobody cares.
I only mention this because its why id rather not leave this instance. Hexbear users lead a targeted harassment campaign against me.
But I agree, threads is dangerous to the Fediverse, which is the topic at hand.
lemm.ee isn't left wing, they just don't believe in knee jerk defederation. Check the post on defederation by the lemm.ee instance runner (https://lemm.ee/post/4543536). Very mature, very balanced and very principled. Compare that to the lemmy.world one, and it's a no contest.
I'm a socialist, and while I think tankies have a dumb conclusions (that Stalin and CCP are good things), I have not seen anything I would consider toxic. Seems that people cannot handle large images. Maybe in a world where caps lock is shouting, that's toxic. Not for me though.
Can you explain what a targeted harassment campaign is, and give examples. I've heard many people claim this, but I've never seen anyone provide evidence.
34 blocked servers at current count, not great not terrible.
While I don't generally consider hexbear leftist (they're more militant liberal tenderqueers), I agree that de-federation is usually a bad idea, and should generally be reserved as a last resort for stuff like pedos.
Did you even check what those servers are? Because blocking spam servers is hardly what I would call knee-jerk defederation, but lots of users here are angry at the very idea of defederation because they were led astray and told that federation is something different than what it actually is (they think that it's an open and free platform with no curation or moderation on what servers they're allowed to access).