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[–] alilbee@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Especially given that there was just an update allowing for individuals to block instances they don't like. Forcing this on the instance level is just nonsense, and exactly the sort of behavior most of us wanted to escape from. If I wanted my instance owner to just decide all of this random nonsense for me, I'd just go back to reddit. I'm glad my instance is leaving it up to me.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

You can block the instance, but the individual users can still be seen from that instance. You would still have to block each individual user, and that’s ridiculous.

edit: fyi, i'm discussing lemmy and how defederation here works. not sure how it works on mastodon.

[–] alilbee@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

If that's true, that's definitely something that needs to be addressed. I am all in favor of users having the choice to block instances and their users, and will likely even block Threads myself. This whole shaming campaign against instances though is childish, ineffective, and against the underlying principles of federation. What's even the point if people are just going to start name and shaming every instance owner making a decision they don't like?

And for fuck's sake, I understand the core idea of embrace, extend, extinguish, don't link me the article (not you, gregorum, just random readers of this comment). I'm just not going to use that as a kneejerk way to shut down any action taken by a company I don't like.

[–] wagoner 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That doesn't sound correct. If it were, what would be the point of the block instance feature?

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's to block all posts from that instance, which I think is not enough.

[–] wagoner 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So it blocks all posts from that instance but not all users? What is the difference as I still see none of their users posts, which is the point isn't it? I'm genuinely not understanding.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can still see their comments, unlike when your instance defederates from their instance. For some people, the ability to completely block all interaction with an instance is important.

[–] wagoner 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

We're talking Lemmy or Mastodon? Because I'm talking Mastodon.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago

Ah, no wonder. Yes, I was talking about Lemmy, sorry.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

we're discussing lemmy. because we're on lemmy.

[–] wagoner 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah, that explains all. There's a mixture of both being discussed, including in the top comment. No problem, thanks for clarifying.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Thanks for asking. It’s better to know what page you’re on then to speculate wildly. Sorry for the confusion.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

exactly. it's pointless.

[–] ShittyKopper@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 2 years ago

if you were to focus this on just Lemmy itself as opposed to the wider fedi ("Especially given that there was just an update allowing for individuals to block instances they don't like" implies that's the case) you already have nothing to worry about as you encountering a threads user here will be even slimmer than encountering a mastodon user.

threads is primarily targeting the microblog/personal side of fedi. the incentives and privacy expectations are quite different compared to this side of fedi