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"I don't know what's natural, but I live in Finland where we use the metric / SI system extensively. Some people don't even know how long an inch is, let alone a foot. Recently I was building a roof with an old, very experienced builder. Turns out that on construction sites, nails and planks are always discussed in inches, even when they're actually metric. So a 60mm nail would be "a two point fiver" ("kakspuokki" or such in Finnish)." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12241565. You can shut the fuck up anytime
It's basically the names of them, you aren't actually measuring anything in inches whatever else you guys use. Like I said, no clue.
Nobody knows how long those measurements are. A fancy tape measurement might have inches on it but as far as anyone is concerned, it's just there to trip you up if you use the wrong side. It's like car speedometers.
Hey, don't be mad at me, nobody forced you to talk out of your ass. You chose to do that. Can't be mad when everyone calls you out on it.
I'm still not over how you think we use fahrenheit for cooking. Why would you think such a thing lol
Sorry dude, you've completely lost this argument. STFU
You seem quite angry even though you started this. Like I said, don't blame me, I'm innocent here.
No, you're wrong, you were being an ass. I proved it, be quiet.
Your argument is akin to thinking we prefer pounds in cooking because a hamburger is called a quarter pounder. We don't measure steaks in pounds, it's that hamburger's name.
I don't know any Fins, but yknow, I do know a lot of Estonians, was confidently correct I might have an idea for a reason. You just sound like you're backpedalling now.
You were confident you were correct but you weren't. Happens, but that's why this whole chain happened. You thought we measure in inches, we don't. For some things it's mm strictly (some design papers for example) and with some things it alternates depending on the scale since conversions are so piss easy in metric system. And of course can depend on scale. Some are measured in meters because big, some are mm because small. You thought we use fahrenheit in cooking, we don't. Your measurements just aren't something we use. I'm not saying they're necessarily worse for the same job (I just think that) but they're definitely not better and especially not in some way we'd prefer them to normal measurements.
Yeah so I already proved my point. Btw, the internet is just awash in French chefs casually using Farenheit like it's their native measure. Thanks though, you made me confirm what i thought prior.
Not sure what point you think you proved. You can even check here:
https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahatavara
https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattinki
All the measurements there are in mm. "Kakkosnelonen" is named so because it used to be "approx. two by four inches". It's measured in mm though, same as basically all planks and shit (see all the other planks on that page). There's also the official guidelines on how things are measured in building and what units to use, such as RT 02-11036. And of course at the actual job sites, people use mm, cm and meters.
You're trying hard to convince that in my field of work we use your measurements even though we just use normal measurements. So mostly mm, unless someone is sloppy an uses cm hah. Or when it's not as accurate, meters. Why you would think we would opt to use anything else, I don't know. Maybe you're just so familiar with them that you'd think we are too and we would like those measurements? No idea.
I'm intrigued by this. You're a French cook speaking French and they're just dropping measurements in Fahrenheit? That seems wild. Link some
Btw it still baffles me. Why would you think we'd use Fahrenheit in metric countries? Why would we in Finland use Fahrenheit for cooking (or for anything else)? It makes no sense to me.
E: I was thinking "hey, we measure shoe size in inches, don't we? He has got us there!" but turns out it's some French unit called "Paris point" that's 2/3cm. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoe_size#Continental_Europe
Yeah ill take what the actual carpenter said, over your bullshit.
You don't think the carpenters we have in our construction yards are actual carpenters??
It's a sourced citation about the "two by four". Or maybe you meant the guidelines. I know they sometimes suck but I wouldn't call them bullshit. A lot of them are made by experienced builders and construction people.
Also no links from you and you didn't even tell me why you'd think we'd prefer to use inches or fahrenheits. Disappointed. You insisting we do something we don't is kinda lost cause for you, but your argument on why you'd think someone would prefer inches to mm etc or especially fahrenheit to celsius might be interesting. And something you can actually argue.
You're so desperate I can't take you seriously, you're arguing completely irrelevant angles, countering points you yourself imagine I made.
Your argument against every actual sign about how we do things here and against someone who actually works in construction was that some rando online said something you misunderstood. Also, not a single argument about why we'd do this thing you think we do and no actual links to the multitude of videos you alluded to. And once I started posting links, you've arguments have curiously dried up. Just saying.
Some rando who told me exactly what I figured, based on knowing Estonian carpenters. You are so full of shit. Also, you're putting words in my mouth and asking questions long since answered.
"Some rando told me exactly what I wanted to hear (even though you misunderstood it tbh) so I've decided to trust the against all the contrary evidence."
This is what you're saying and yeah, we noticed.
Its just a bunch of bullshit from a fucking wanker never ran a saw
I have actually. Been on quite a few house construction sites and bigger projects too. Not that means anything to you, you've decided what you believe and literally no amount of evidence will change it. That sort of stubbornness is almost inspirational.