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[–] fishos@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If the knowledge was out there, universities could be advancing the next levels instead of only billion dollar companies. Trapping the knowledge within only a handful of companies only helps those companies.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The knowledge wouldn't be out there. It wouldn't exist because the companies paying for the work would be bankrupt.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If only there were these institutions of learning where people researched things. Something like a "University"....

This is science, not corporate trade secrets.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

The economics of academic research is actually something to complain about. That research is paid for in large part with public funding, then privatized and paywalled.

There is no theoretical world where academic research could get paid for at anywhere near the rate of the private sector. If trade secrets didn't exist, we would be decades slower in technology at a generous best case.

Your opinion doesn't have even the tiniest sliver of validity underlying it.

[–] GeneralVincent@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No dog in this fight, but

There is no theoretical world where academic research could get paid for at anywhere near the rate of the private sector

A world where we theoretically care more about the academic advancement of humans than the money in our pocket. Money isn't sentient, going wherever it thinks it should go. Humans give it to other humans in exchange for things.

Not saying it's very realistic in our world, but saying it's not even theoretically possible seems pretty silly and defeatist tbh.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago

What you're describing is no longer a human civilization filled with humans. Free will is a core to what makes people people, and that means people being permitted to clash, disagree, and compete.

It's not defeatist in any way. His weird fantasy world where work and investment aren't rewarded sounds like a miserable hell hole.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, cus science only advanced when done by corporations. Governments never funded and developed new science ever. Nope not ever. Astronomy and nuclear tech would like a word btw.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

The scale of what government is capable of compared to government plus the private sector are not remotely comparable.

It is a statement of fact that if private companies were not entitled to the fruits of their research it's literally impossible anywhere near as much research would be done, and literally impossible that output of that research would be further along.