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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

That’s because they’re not communists. They’re anarchist trolls making fun of everything—including themselves.

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Please don't lump anarchists in with those Stalin worshipping crazies.

[–] uniqueid198x@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I've gotten serious pushback from them for advancing basic anarchist ideas. The prevailing ideology amongst hexbear users is not anarchist.

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, as an anarchist they are DEFINITELY not anarchists.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Well, that is contrary to my experience. Most of them say tear it down and destroy it and then if it survives, fill it with communism. That’s anarchy.

[–] uniqueid198x@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah, I was thinking the social organizing principle, rather than the colloquial. Hexbear has very few Anarchists

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lots of lip service coming from them in that regard.

[–] uniqueid198x@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

They like to talk about left unity, but all their heros sent the secret police after "left socialists" like anarchists and unionists

[–] cacheson@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm starting to doubt your ability to identify anarchists.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’ll agree it’s weaker than my ability to identify a communist. So whatever you call them, it’s not communism. It’s just lip service.

[–] cacheson@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I can appreciate the desire of modern communists to avoid a repeat of how things went with the USSR, China, etc. However, I don't think you can wholly repudiate the tankies as non-communist.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Make them rich and see how communist they really are.

[–] cacheson@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean, I guess, maybe? I think Marxism-Leninism is a fucked up ideology, but I don't categorically doubt the sincerity of MLs. They'd probably put any sudden windfall towards some sort of vanguard party centralized power bullshit that they think will eventually lead to communism, as is consistent with their ideas.

As an anarchist, I don't think that would be a good use of the money, but I don't have any particular reason to believe that they'd be more hypocritical about it than any other communist or leftist.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago

Everyone is a communist/anarchist when they’re poor.

[–] SeducingCamel@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah I see hexbear has gone from alt right trolls to anarchist trolls now

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They weren’t really alt-right if they love communism.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago