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I've blocked all the nazis trying to engage with me saying nazis aren't bad so I'll just say this in a TLC and block more nazis when they reply -
It's funny that all the people calling ME evil for not considering the nuances of various people's nazi ideology..... Are the same people who think women should die for wearing jeans, and that people should die for having a different religion, or die for not sharing a skin tone...
Nazis are nazis are nazis. If your world view was so different, spoilers, you wouldn't identify with nazis. ๐คท
FUCK NAZIS.
Nazis are obviously bad, but this comment makes me think that anyone you don't like/like their comments/replies, you consider a Nazi?
Who do you supposed killed more people. The Nazis or the USA?
Per Capita, in total, Per capita per year, or total per year? Each of these 4 types has a different answer, and the Nazis were higher in nearly every metric of slaughter.
The US is bad. The US has never been fully fascist, despite flirting with it. Nazi Germany was perhaps the most evil and oppressive country to ever exist in history, and certainly was for the 20th century.
What exactly is your point? Nazis are bad, but so is the US? I don't think too many people on Lemmy are fans of the US, but to insinuate that the Nazis are somehow more palatable by being compared to the US is absurd.
Even without defining those parameters, I also thought it was sort of strange to compare a political party vs country.
It's all strange. What's the point? "Hmmm, you think Nazis are bad? Have you considered that other countries are bad but significantly less bad? Checkmate!" It's just terminally online.
Oh yeah, at it's root, it was already bad.
I'm always interested in a decent discussion or thought experiment though, even if I completely disagree with the other person. 99% are so lazy nowadays it's not even interesting reading their copy/paste comments that have been recycled for the last decade
Ooh, evasive. Which metric did USA win? And by how much?
Just delivering a dose of sanity to this low hanging fruit salad.
Of course nazis are bad. But you people. Look at you. Frothing on command. Bunch of drones waiting for your target programming.
Odd to call it "winning," but the answer is "historical total." The US has murdered tens of millions more over its several hundred year history than Nazi Germany killed in the less than half a century it existed.
It isn't sanity to pretend that hundreds of years of brutal history are equally comparable to an extremely condensed period of the single most brutal country to exist in modern history. Nazism is far more evil than liberalism, even if liberalism is still inevitably evil.
Oh how you evade my point.
Remember. A few years of deprivation, a rousing propaganda campaign and a billionaire's funding, and you too might become the next "bad guy".
Heck, none of these people ever saw a nazi outside of a videogame, and look at their passion. Puppets looking for a master.
I'll make it simple for you: Nazis are bad.
Were they born bad?
When one becomes a Nazi, they cease to be able to be considered good.
Oh just answer the simple question
Why? You keep trying to dodge that your central point is that people should stop saying Nazis are bad, because the US exists. It's absurd and nothing more needs to be said, you aren't willing to engage in fair or meaningful convo
But that isn't my central point my obtuse buddy.
My central point is that it's complicated. Because reality is complicated. And the difference between a nazi and a regular person is much smaller than you think.
Nazis are evil. Simple.
That would make a good videogame
No, they were born innocent, when they became nazis they became bad
Ah so they changed. Why did they change?
I dont know, maybe the had bad experiences with something or maybe they just became so because surroundings? But why does it matter?
It matters because it's the difference between them and you.
So if we had bad experiences then maybe we would be nazis.
That idea makes my head spin.
They probably had a lot of choiches to make tho, That idea makes me think too but its not like they were predestined or something
Criminals aren't born bad, they have to break the law which is a social contract.
Tolerance is also a social contract that Nazis have opted out of.
Fuck Nazis.
Ya I saw that movie too.
The one where the Nazis get stomped in the 20th century or the one where the Nazis get stomped in the 21st century?
If you knew anything about what you were talking about you would already know.
Nazis love dehumanizing people
Go on and tell us how much better you are than a Nazi.
You realize that calling people nazis is dehumanizing too, right?
Nazi is a subclassification of humans, it actually does the opposite of dehumanizing by more thoroughly defining the human/humanity relationship.
But if me saying "fuck Nazis" gets you riled up so be it ๐ซก