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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

But funding genocide isn't unaffordable...

Got plenty of billions to give to Netanyahu to continue his genocide of Palestinians no matter what. Just not enough for Americans to have stuff like healthcare or retirement.

Nope.

Gotta have priorities, it's not like we could ask the wealthiest to pay their fair of taxes either. Just think of all the donations politicians like Biden would lose our on!

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 48 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What the fuck are you talking about? Biden and the Democrats are the only politicians trying to tax the rich, get people healthcare, and keep Medicare funded. Blame the Republicans that stop them every time. It has nothing to do with not being able to afford it.

[–] Poggervania@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They’re one of those “gEnOcIdEr JoE” types that don’t realize the US would’ve backed Israel regardless of who was President.

Also, the military industrial complex is fucking insane and it’s arguable that the US has invested so much into it that it would hugely impact the economy between all the programs, jobs, and money in general we (over)give to them.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Of course I know we would have supported Israel regardless. They are an ally who was attacked. It's the right thing to do. That isn't to say that I don't think there shouldn't be restrictions that come with that aid. Limits on civilian casualties for example. That is all irrelevant to the point.

You're right that the MIC is a huge part of the economy, so if anything supplying weapons to Israel will inject billions into the US economy. That will only help the finances of the average American.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 4 points 2 years ago

Not only funding genocide but also defunding a country legitimately trying to defend itself from an invasion. Somehow, he can invoke emergency powers to weaponize Israel, but Ukraine's fate is left to another group who can't even manage to pass a bowl of mashed potatoes.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Military budget has nothing to do with prescription drugs and groceries.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Wait...

You think the 15 billion Biden wants Israel to have is coming out of the defense budget?!

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/20/us/politics/bidens-funds-israel-ukraine.html

You think any of the billions we give them annually is being taken away from the DoD?

Ludacris.

The military budget isn't paying for that.

It's getting added to our debt, which will then prevent moderates and Republicans from supporting shit like universal healthcare or tax cuts to the least wealthy

Gotta say, didn't think I'd have to break that down. Thought everyone in a political sub would understand

[–] Jerbattimus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you think that Republicans are against universal healthcare and progressive tax structures because the national debt is too high, then I also have a bridge to sell you.

They don't support those things because it's evil, evil socialism and makes rich people slightly less rich. Even if the debt was $0, they'd still oppose things like that. It's who they are.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Both groups will use any excuse not to do those things.

But an extra 15 billion in addition to the like 1.5 billion Israel always gets is going to give them a great big debt to point to. And they won't take that from defense spending.

It will be used to justify cuts to other shit we actually need.

When they don't have a plausible excuse, theyre less like to get re-elected.

It's why Netanyahu's government doesn't want to get rid of Hamas. They'd still do all the fucked up shit they always do, Hamas is just the best excuse they have

And debt is the best excuse "moderate" Dems have for standing lockstep with Republicans against progress.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago

Your really keeping that armchair warm aren't you.