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Post videos you genuinely enjoy and want to share, duh. Celebrate the diversity of interests shared by chapochatters by posting a deep dive into Venetian kelp farming, I dunno. Also media criticism, bite-sized versions of left-wing theory, all the stuff you expected. But I am curious about that kelp farming thing now that you mentioned it.

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No, masculinity did.

(Okay, I'm over-simplifying, just watch the video!)

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[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago (14 children)

First, may I suggest that people posting videos post a brief synopsis rather than just the title? From the title this sounds like a typical MRA/Andrew Tate kind of video. From the comment discussion I’m assuming it’s not, but my instinct was to just skip it based on that. A short burst of text that I can read in a few seconds is enough to let me know whether I should watch something when I have time, or just skip it.

Second, by reading the comments, it seems like it’s not actually MRA. If that’s the case, then I recommend that interested parties look into the men’s liberation movement. Unlike MRA, men’s lib is designed specifically to be supportive of and build off of the women’s liberation movement and specifically address issues like toxic masculinity, honor culture, rape culture, and so on. It’s intended to take an intersectional approach to the social and health problems men face and address them in a whole-of-society fashion inclusive of gender diversity and sexual preferences. There was a thriving community on that other site for it where people could have both heartfelt and informed discussions as to what defines masculinity, how it’s been realized throughout history and cross-culturally, and how things like southern culture or Christian conservative politics exploit particular versions of the idea to promote the violence and static structure associated with the patriarchy.

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's quite the opposite of Andrew Tate. It's a discussion of how masculinity "breaks men so they can break others", done by a gay leftist trans man with a sociology background. So not only does he know what it's like to move from being treated as a girl to being treated as a boy and the emotional toll it takes, he also brings the gender euphoria typical for us trans folks to the table, and that POV turns out to be a pretty powerful analytic perspective. He takes masculinity apart from a feminist vantage point, there's a lot of bell hooks in the vid, but while he understands the ins and outs of toxic masculinity he also genuinely loves being a dude, and that leads to the kind of heartfelt and informed discussion about masculinity you're describing.

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think that’s fantastic. I’m just suggesting that, if exactly this text had been posted alongside the video, I and possibly others would have wanted to watch it. My threshold for watching a video - especially these days given the proliferation of monetized over the top MRA videos and such - is higher than that for some text. If I’m with someone, I have to either stick it in a queue for later watching or find some headphones, I can’t watch it from the back of an Uber or in public, and so on.

I will end up watching this when I can. It also sounds exactly aligned with the men’s lib movement.

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

I’m just suggesting that, if exactly this text had been posted alongside the video, I and possibly others would have wanted to watch it.

Absolutely. That goes for most of the vids posted on here, i wouldn't have watched it either if i wasn't familiar with the guy's work.

[–] Bay_of_Piggies@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

Pretty sure the video title is to trick reactionary minded men into watching the video.

[–] pooh@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

This is a fantastic summary/explanation. I also had the wrong idea from the title, but you totally sold me on watching this.

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