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Distributed hosting? (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 years ago by mo_ztt@lemmy.world to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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Hey all. Not sure if this is the right place to post this, please point me in the right direction if not:

So I only came here because of the exodus from reddit, but I'm pumped to see this community and all this technology people have been making. It's like a return to the old-school, user-operated internet instead of the big awful silos that have been dominating the landscape since the early 2000s. I'm in.

So quick question, are there plans or projects in the works for distributed hosting (making it easier for the users to take up the load of storing and hosting content so the instance operators aren't stuck with the hosting costs)?

I ask because I'd like to work on a project to implement this, as I feel it'd be a massive further step forward. I'm not sure though if there's anything existing I should be trying to get up to speed on or if I should be thinking in terms of starting my own project if I want to be working on it.

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[–] damn@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I've had similar musings as yours I think. I think the way to make a decentralized community as user friendly as a centralized one would be making the decentralization transparent somehow. One way would require a way for hosters to volunteer computing resources in a way that's more like adding cattle to a herd rather than pets to a family like in fediverse/matrix/email. More ephemeral and happening in the background. I think the downside is that this is getting closer to peer-to-peer which has a lot of overhead and scaling issues (factorial growth). Federation lies between p2p and client-server but maybe there is room to push it closer to p2p to unlock transparent distribution of resources.

[–] DannySpud@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I completely agree with you. I've only just started using this Fediverse stuff but my immediate impression has been this is cool but most of this needs to be invisible to end users.

In particular I think things need to be set up to treat instances as potentially temporary. Right now you're placing a lot of trust in just some random person if you want to try and build up a community. For any number of reasons they could pull the rug out from under you at any point and if that happens your account is gone and (as far as I can tell at least) your content is frozen at the last snapshot it sent. Accounts need to be global or at least mirrored to other instances you interact with. And instances should be able to keep adding posts and comments to that snapshot and sharing the updates to other instances so it's like it never went down (I don't think this happens now).

[–] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Yep, I 100% agree. Here's my write-up of more of the details of my proposed solution. I'm planning to start work on it this week; if you have feedback or want to help, I'd welcome it.