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https://www.restaurantbusinessonline.com/workforce/casa-bonita-workers-demand-return-tipping#:~:text=Shortly%20before%20opening%2C%20Casa%20Bonita's,wage%20of%20%2430%20per%20hour.

Shortly before opening, Casa Bonita’s new owners Matt Stone and Trey Parker decided to eliminate tipping and instead pay workers a flat wage of $30 per hour.

Now I could be wrong, but getting a an hourly wage as a restaurant worker is FAR better than relying on tips. I feel like either workers in this situation are too obsessed with tips or there’s huge context missing.

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[–] buttwater@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

say it's friday night, you've got 4 tables per hour, each table runs a bill of about $100 and tips $20. That's $80/hr not including hourly wage. I know not every time on the clock is friday night, but i get the complaint.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm not American, but don't the wait staff have to then share their tips with the cooks and the bussers? If you give a reasonable percentage to both, doesn't your sick $80 peak suddenly start getting very close to your standard $30 untipped pay?

If cooks and bussers are getting tipped... Why the fuck not? If a customer gets great service but shit food, they're not going to tip as generously, right?

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

don't the wait staff have to then share their tips with the cooks and the bussers?

Yeah, nah. This is required almost nowhere but the 9th circuit court states (west coast to Montana, plus Alaska and Hawaii) because of a circuit court case, and the states affected also got rid of tip credit, so that FOH and BOH are paid the same base wage as well.

Some restaurants have pooling, but it's often very low and often ignored.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Wtf are waiters just restaurant Kulaks?

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] janny@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"Kulaks are people who make my treats more expensive so they can afford to live above subsistence levels"

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

Work a kitchen, it’s because I’m bitter about the way I was treated not because I am upset about tipping making things more expensive. I straight up don’t eat out so it’s a non-issue from that end.

[–] Swoosegoose@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago

At the expense of the other workers who don't get a living wage or tips

[–] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

Damn I’m learning some things ITT and it’s not looking good for waiters. Being a waiter is still a valuable skill but not as useful and being able to cook food frfr.

[–] beto@lemmy.studio 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Because wait staff can be (and are) paid less than minimum wage due to the tips.

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's messed up that there are even exceptions to minimum wage. It also makes no sense where minimum wage is low that the kitchen staff can be on minimim wage while the wait staff are making much more on tips. You can have a restaurant with no waiters but you can't have a restaurant with no cooks.

The whole system as it exists seems designed to retroactively prop up a nonsense tradition.

[–] asret@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago

This seems misleading. If no one tipped the employer would be required to pay staff the state minimum wage, not the $2.13 that's often brought up. Tipping is really a handout to the owners, because now they don't have to pay their employees.