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[–] DieguiTux8623@feddit.it 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

This "reasoning" is quite similar to what patriarch Kirill of Moskov declared a year ago, with the difference that it referred to the depraved "West" (not US specifically). He was harshly criticized by western media and even ridiculed for being expression of a retrograde and superstitious approach to religion.

Ironically, now the most democratic country of the world, the homeland of freedom itself, is having its political (not even religious) leaders telling basically the same thing.

How quickly the tide turns.

[–] digehode@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m always baffled by these charts. How is anything under North Korea? I seriously struggle to think of anything worse that isn’t a nationwide literal concentration camp.

[–] digehode@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As long as there's a system, I think they're useful. You can argue they weight things incorrectly but it's useful to have some way to see how a country does against the same evaluation for rest of the world. I don't know if this is the best data, but I don't see anything that pops out as particularly odd.

At the bottom, it's not much between NK and the two below. But the two below are Myanmar and Afghanistan, which I don't think is too crazy.

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Oh that’s for sure, those charts are still useful, it’s very rare for them to be extremely inaccurate. I’m just in disbelief at most of them having something below NK since it’s basically a slave nation. Would like to see the exact criteria, but I didn’t find them.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm having difficulty with the bit where you call the USA the "homeland of freedom itself". I know Americans like to believe they live in the best country in the world but the evidence to the country is pretty substantial.

Personally I think that a free country probably doesn't have a police force that's killed more of its own citizens than a hostile nation state could ever hope to achieve.

[–] DieguiTux8623@feddit.it 4 points 2 years ago

I was being sarcastic, and I had to edit that sentence multiple times before publishing to eliminate more polemic bits. I try to follow the etiquette but sometimes my bad temper emerges.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

now the most democratic country of the world, the homeland of freedom itself

Neither of those are even close to true...

Or ever have been

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago